now uh how do I enhance my competence
See let’s say you want to run on the field Let’s say you want to run a race
You want to run 100 mters It is not running that you have to work on right now You have to work on your
legs and lungs and muscle and everything isn’t it So if you want to become a great
engineer yes definitely an institute like this is crucial on one level
But any number of people might have come here and gone not all of them became great engineers Though they might have
produced hundreds of great engineers still not all of them will become simply because of their own individual
attitudes and competence and whatever else Isn’t it So whatever the institute can do for you
it is doing One foremost thing that you need to do is to enhance your own
physical and mental capabilities because if you want to be a good engineer you have a you need a working brain
Just having a degree of engineering can maybe be a passport to a job
but it is not a passport to success isn’t it
So to have a working brain which the engineering degree will not freeze
Usually lots of degrees when people acquire degrees they freeze their brains They think they can now they finished
using it and now they can rest it for the rest of their lives It is not So this is only to enhance your capability
This is just an organized effort A school a college an institute is just an organized effort towards that because
each individual cannot craft it for himself That is why an institution
otherwise an institution has no other purpose It is here to just organize that possibility of you striving to be of a
certain competence But that is a mass application
But as an individual your most important thing is you as a human being you are
functioning at the fullest level If that has to happen there are other dimensions
which one needs to explore Unfortunately though these sciences and technologies
for inner well-being have been the mainstay of this culture for thousands of years Today we are largely losing it
for various reasons because we want to imitate somebody else We don’t want to imitate our grandfather Topiwala anymore
We want to imitate the hatsella from another country
Because of that we are losing those things But we should not we have to bring it back into our lives This is
very much a part of uh the way the culture itself is structured
that it is all about the human being See this is the only culture which talks
about which even an illiterate person in this culture is aware of that you can actually evolve to another dimension of
existence even if I go into a village and talk to an illiterate peasant who
has not read anything who doesn’t know anything who’s not heard any of this stuff even to him if I go he will not
ask me uh give me a golden horse or something he’ll say
he’s saying he wants ultimate liberation Where did this fellow get this Nowhere
else on the planet this is possible Nowhere else on this planet is it possible that an illiterate person is
thinking that he can break his present dimension of existence and go to another place whatever that place is
So this was bred into our culture so deep we should not lose it It was not just the idea there are technologies to
become free If you became free from the process of your body and the process of your mind if you can sit outside of it
and work it you would work it brilliantly Do you understand
You would be able to use this body and use this mind only when you are able to not treat it as myself
These are powerful instruments in your life These instruments can be employed the way you want it only when you have
an outside access to it Right now you are a phenomenal computer but you don’t
know where the keyboard is When you can’t think you scratch this spot that’s not where it is
Do you see people when they cannot think they’re thinking hard they scratch here It doesn’t work like that
There are there are proper steps that one can take It could be offered here if
everybody’s willing for that Please relate fear
apathy and success
How to conquer fear and apathy on the way to success
That’s all Okay Fear about whether I will be successful
or not Where is apathy coming No your individual fear about whether
I’ll be successful or not Is that what you’re talking See that’s that’s exactly what I’ve been
telling you till now Do not even think of success Just enhance your capabilities Strive to enhance who you
are Then what you can do you will anyway do isn’t it
Right now you have an idea of success but you don’t have the competence for
that You want to go somewhere but you don’t have the legs to get there
Now naturally there will be fear Naturally there will be all kinds of unnecessary struggles and emotions
Instead of that at this stage in your life if you just focus on seeing how to enhance this human being to the highest
possible level that you can success will be a downhill run not an
uphill task So if you are going downhill there’s no
fear isn’t it Because whether I can get there or not whether I can get there or not you are working towards somebody’s
else’s idea of success You’re working towards somebody else’s
idea of success That is not success Your success is you as a human being You
found your full potential This is your success And that’s all you can do
Whether you stand on your head or you stand on your feet the best that you can do If this human being finds his fullest
potential that’s all you can do No matter what you do you cannot do more Isn’t it Certain circumstances sometimes
will loft us up Certain circumstances sometimes may not But in the given circumstance if you have blossomed to
your fullest level you will do well Isn’t it
Don’t think of success and be fearful about it Just see how to make this one more and more capable
If the competence and capability is there success will come as we deserve it
Um I want to maybe stay on Davos for one more uh maybe round before we move on uh
you have seen Davos from 2006 till after uh the crash of 2008 and uh just before
we came here we were having a short chat and you said uh you addressed depression
in the post 2008 uh period and of course you have seen the euphoria of the
preceding years euphoria to depression um how do how do how do these mood
swings happen and uh you know how does one balance out uh your one’s views as
it were I think one reason is uh a lot of people have not strived for
their success they are successful by chance that’s why they’re euphoric and
depressed if they had crafted their success you would know the mechanics of success
it doesn’t matter what’s happening Today you know where you’re going anyway Nobody can take that away from you So
people who do not know the mechanics of what they’re doing the fundamentals of what they’re doing by chance because of
situational help somebody becomes successful He is euphoric He thinks he’s
they’re hitting a lottery They’re not successful Hitting a lottery is not success It’s
just chance So because of that you’ll see too much of this swings And anyway as I was
telling you they asked me to handle this session called uh recession and
depression It was 2008 Just then uh recession had
moved into the European and American market All these billionaires were carrying long faces So I’m supposed to
spread it a little bit Spread a smile that is
So I said recession is bad enough Do you need depression on top of it
You always dreamed you want to walk the beach you want to swim you want to go play golf Okay this is the time less
work This is not the end of the world And above all the way we have structured
our economic process in the planet is such that if we fail we will be
depressed If we succeed we will be damned I said I prefer that you’re depressed
We because our economy is all about more not about all I think the business leaders people who
have reached a certain level of success should shift their attention from more to all All would naturally be inclus
inclusiveness More is taking All is an embrace
Indeed Um moving on to u something that we see across India today Um the mood of
negativity in a way it is a continuum of this depression that we are looking at
But this collective mood of negativity um how do you uh look at it and uh how
do you actually I think you meet only the people in the boardrooms
right now a lot of people too many people including the business leaders and the media everybody is constantly
talking about India will become a superpower which makes me very apprehensive
you don’t have legs and you want to climb Mount Everest It sounds really apprehensive to me
because we going to flounder with this kind of attitude Everybody is talking about India becoming superpower You need
to understand this In this country right now for 1.2 billion people you neither have the roads nor the airports nor the
infrastructure nor the homes nor even enough trees or not enough rivers not even even a piece of sky for 1.2 billion
people The only thing that we have is we have a population
We done well on that We have a huge population If you
transform this population into a very competent focused inspired population
yes we could be a superpower in a different way Then you understand superpower in normal sense Superpower
means people have always thought military might and something else But we will be a superpower because just about
anywhere you go already we see that But in a much bigger way every company on the planet could be led by an Indian
That is superpower We’re all over the place Somebody was telling see this is Barat Mahabharat is
elsewhere else It’s in a different place So I know
there’s one segment of people who are constantly marose about markets going down markets going up and stuff There’s
another level of people who are too too loose in their thought that they think
we’re going to become a super power We don’t have the fundamentals I don’t have to tell this to you You know better Uh
we don’t have the fundamentals to become any kind of superpower It’s just too much of nonsense Our problem is we’re
too dramatic in our minds We exaggerate our success We exaggerate our failures
It doesn’t matter The crowd sees it that way It’s all right But people in positions of responsibility and
leadership have should be able to see what is the reality Not imagining things
about being superpower Not imagining things about going into dumps Both are not true We are at a threshold
We are sitting with a possibility a huge possibility in front of us But between
possibility and reality there is a distance Do we have the necessary commitment strength and focus to walk
the distance That’s a big question Is every one of us working towards
creating an India which will have the necessary focus and commitment to walk the distance from possibility to reality
This is still a question mark Which way we will go we don’t know
Sguru Namaskar This side please identify Yeah I’m Sep
Kalra There is a there is a police woman You must identify yourself
My question is with something which I had experienced We have a small NGO We started that to enable people so that
they can uh live well So we employed some boys who were uh the sons of these
maids and drivers We taught we told them that you come we will teach you how to work on CNC machines Those boys they
came for 2 days and third day they didn’t turn up We asked them why you are not coming up They say
my hands become black I don’t want to work with my hands And this is what is happening that after education all
parents even including myself I want my child not to do a hand hand work He
should be a officer He should sit in the office or he should be in the AC Now this is something where the erosion has
happened I would like your insight on this I think I kind of addressed this in the beginning Our idea of education is
entirely English Unfortunately everybody is going to the university for what We have to live in this universe
not in a university Okay
right now this is a serious thing happening in the country
I do not know if these laws are across the nation but at least in Tamil Nadu because there were children dropping out
of the school The government passed a law a few years ago saying that uh you
cannot fail a child till he reaches ninth standard So from first standard to
nth standard is free pass This was done misplaced compassion
because if you fail him at third standard then he will go back home He won’t come back and sit in the same
class again So let him somehow continue Good intention But today you have millions of youth who
are 14 15 years of age who wear pants who have the attitude of the educated
but don’t know education They can’t add 2 plus two but they have the attitude of the educated Now they can’t go back to
the farm and work with their father They can’t learn carpentry which if if their father is a carpenter or a blacksmith or
whatever your CNC machine Now uh we are creating this youth This is a dangerous
thing Youth without purpose is a dangerous possibility always So our idea
of education has to change Why is it that everybody has to go to school I do not believe in this compulsory education
thing at all Why is it that everybody has to go to school We have to make a law By the time you’re 18 everybody must
be tested You must have some skill Otherwise you must join the army or do something
some skill You must be able to do something with your hands or your brains If you have no skill you must go for 2
years of some kind of compulsory training It could be you know semi- armed forces it could be police it could
be some other industrial training whatever Kept there for two years and trained In every country in many
countries who want to come up well they have two years of compulsory army training Ours need not be necessarily
military training It could be industrial training It could be something else but compulsory they must go through by 18 If
they don’t have a skill or they’re not progressing towards their academic capabilities they must compulsory go if
you don’t skill the nation you will kill the nation
Sguru when um I come for volunteering at IE program my energy levels are very
high even the same dishes when I wash at home I don’t feel the same energy level
how to make my home my work everything as an ashroom you should give it all
away to me really
anyway I’m not going to come and eat in your house every day but in a man you must give it away
because here you’re doing it as an offering It’s a beautiful thing There you’re doing it as a chore It’s an ugly
thing Both the same work is just you isn’t it
Same dishes same work just you who can make it either miserable or joyful
So even what you do at home and office why don’t you do it as an offering What’s stopping you I won’t ask for you
I won’t come and steal your salary I won’t come and eat your food Why don’t you just do it as an offering
It’ll work beautifully It’ll work beautifully Not only because your mindset has changed Above all you
become receptive for grace
That’s the most significant thing That is the most important thing in your life to become available to grace
If that one thing is not there this is an uphill task Uphill task Quite an
impossible task I wouldn’t say impossible but torturous
If you go with grace you glide effortlessly joyfully
If you try to walk then it is a very torturous journey
I don’t see what’s the point in anybody making the process of life unpleasant
for themselves We do not know what big things will become in your life
Whether you are going to climb Mount Everest or not Whether you are going to run 100 m in 8 or no we should talk 7
seconds or not Whether you’re going to beat the bolt or not Whether
whether you are going to become a billionaire or not we do not know But this one thing you deserve that the
process of life was a pleasant experience for you This one thing must happen to you Isn’t it This one thing
every human being deserves Isn’t it So other things according to their
capabilities All the other things according to their capabilities This one thing every human
being deserves that you make the experience of life into a pleasant
process This much must happen isn’t it Other things we don’t know They may
happen they may not happen because they’re subject to various realities not just you Those situations are not
just you isn’t it Those situations are so many things This one thing you can do
it If this one thing happens life is beautiful according to our capabilities
Each one will do whatever we can do That’s all there is to life isn’t it
But this one thing should happen So you must be a volunteer always What a
being a volunteer means is to volunteer means
you’re doing your life willingly That’s all it means
right now If you say I’m a volunteer what it means is I’m doing whatever I am
doing willingly Yes So this is all the choice you have You
can either do your life willingly or unwillingly If you do it willingly
it becomes a love affair If you do it unwillingly it becomes a rape
If you do it willingly it becomes your heaven If you do it unwillingly it’ll
become your hell Yes that’s all the difference isn’t it
Anything that you’re doing in your life if you’re doing it willingly it’s a beautiful thing If it’s happening to you
unwillingly is a horrible thing isn’t it So being a volunteer does not mean
washing dishes does not mean cutting vegetables does not mean this or that
Learning to become willing in all kinds of situations that you do every moment of your life
willingly not unwillingly Because the moment unwillingness comes
even if the most beautiful thing is happening to you it feels like you’re being buggered by life
Yes or no Unwilling You are unwilling but we’ll
push you into heaven You will suffer How do you know you’re not already in
heaven Is there any proof Is there any proof in your hands that
this is not heaven Then
because you’re unwilling even the heaven is ugly
If you’re willing it’s very beautiful
and only if you are willing you become available to grace Otherwise you have to
plot every step which is not easy
[Music] Hi
that’s okay If I’m a performing artist I’m sorry If
I’m a performing artist performing artist Yeah And does your training and
your practice and your craft count as sad And if yes is that enough
Does what count as sadhana my training my practice and my craft and every
single show that I do or every single rehearsal or everything that goes into it
Oh what kind of performing artist I’m an
actor Okay So as you said it’s an act
Anything that you do with great involvement does something to you All right
But there is a difference between doing an an inward focused sadena and an outward sadena It’s not just for an
actor A manager can use his work as sadena A gardener can use his work as
sadena Anybody who doing whatever with absolute involvement they can use it as
a process of growth But there is a distinct difference between doing external activity as
sadena and internal process as sadena What is the difference External activity
as sadena is useful because you can do it throughout the day and of course you
have to do some activity Making that also into your process of growth is important
But the reason for internal sadena which has nothing to do with the outside is to
create that inner space within you because your outside sadena is subject
to results You can’t help it Suppose in the middle of your act you forgot your dialogue You can’t say this is my sadena
I forgot and it’s fine I’ll still enjoy and grow No you will be demolished on that day Isn’t it So your outside sadena
is subject to a certain level of performance and result and appreciation
and the monetary returns and everything but still it can be useful It can be
working for your well-being if you’re doing it with absolute involvement
If there is involvement in anything just your breathing if you’re absolutely involved this will become your sadena
You’re walking you’re acting you’re anything Involvement makes every act into a kind
of growth But still creating an inner space is very important because that’s
not subject to anything outside Nobody need to clap their hands when you’re meditating
Yes you do your ka You’re not expecting somebody to appreciate you at the end of it It is not subject to any external
reality And that’s very important that at least one aspect of your life is like
this It is not subject to anybody’s appreciation or approval or whatever But
still you do it with absolute involvement There are other dimensions to it Apart from that for you as a
person to do something which has nothing to do with anybody around you is an
important act that you have to perform every day It’s very important So if you do that well it’ll be very
easy to make your life’s activity into your sadena If this inner space is not there life’s
activity can slowly catch you up in such a way that for a lot of people the
professions and whatever else they started with great passion after some time it’s killing them
It is well most people on the planet isn’t it Simply because there is no
inner space So all this in you know I’m not an expert in these things but I
remember this because uh of something that came my way once all this in one
single sentence was uttered by Krishna He said yoga
it simply means first establish yourself within you then act then no action is a
problem You can fight a war You can act You can be a priest in the temple You
can cook You can sweep It doesn’t matter what you do But first establish yourself and do whatever you want
He’s not restricting your action He’s saying do whatever you want Whatever is needed you do but first establish
yourself within yourself Otherwise you’re using external activity to make yourself who you are which will be
disastrous Establish who you are then act No problem But if you’re using your
activity to make yourself into something if something comes in your way which
doesn’t allow you to become that you will be destroyed [Music]
Number six what is cosmic will and what is free
will Cosmic Yeah
Is is free will same as cosmic will or is there anything like cosmic which is predestined
What you call as cosmic will is not will as you know it as human will
as your mind’s will
It has a certain pattern It has a certain quality
that that which rules the cosmos has a certain a consciousness and a tendency
of its own that is always there that you and me right now exist is
cosmic will but right now you decided to come to satsang is of course your will
isn’t it isn’t it so cosmic will is not like a decision
it is just air it is because of cosmic will we have
taken on this form it is because of cosmic will the planet
is going around the sun these are not as human thoughts are
this is just the quality of the nature right now water flows from a high place
to a low place try to stop it whichever way you want it seems to have a will of its own But that
is not a will It is flowing according to the laws of gravity So cosmic will is
like the gravitational force and various other things It just is there always
It only acts that way because the very framework of life is based on the cosmic
will But today you decide to do this or
that that is definitely your will Cosmic will has no role in this
But you can use the cosmic force to make it make your will into a reality
right now Gravitational force is working Using
that I’m sitting here otherwise I would be floating all over the place
Yes I would even need an anchor to stay here because gravity is working
I’m enjoying sitting here otherwise
using the same gravity I can dance It’s my will Sitting is my will Dancing
is my will If I want I can jump down That is also my will But all these
things cannot happen without the gravity
That’s the nearest analogy we can get there probably So cosmic will is always in play We’re enjoying it every moment
of our life Or we suffering it sometimes The gravity
can make you dance The gravity can make you fall if you’re not in tune with it So that is where your will plays Your
will determines and your will is able to use the cosmic will Without that your
will wouldn’t even exist It is cosmic will that you must have a will
But do not try to fulfill your life through your will
because your will is generally empowered by your thought
and your thought is essentially an accumulated stuff
Your thought is what you have gathered from around you It’s the data that you
have gathered that you’re reprocessing recycling in so many different ways
Doing things with willpower is okay if you are aiming for small little things Today morning you want to
get up at 5:00 You’re doing it with willpower or alarm
power The alarm rings also you still need
willpower to come out of your bed If you do this you may get to do things
but at the end of the day you’ll have a long face
Instead of trying to do this with willpower you do it with devotion You do
it with love Now I want to get up at 5:00 because I have something that I really want to do
Not that I have to do There’s nothing in my life that I have to do Everything in my life or things that I want to do So
if alarm is at 5:00 I get up at 4:30 because I want to do it If you conduct
your life as I have to do it because that’s willpower Oh no matter what I must do it I must do it I must do it You
may get to do it but your face will become long miserable face
Everything happened but at the end of the day you have a long face Purpose is defeated isn’t it The purpose
of doing all that is already been defeated isn’t it So because you did not enjoy it It does not fulfill you What is
the point So there is no need to do things to conduct your life with
willpower Here and there small things sometimes when your body is aching on
that day you need willpower to push yourself a little bit but do not try to
conduct the life process itself with willpower because you will become a long successful face
ulcer in your stomach success in your bag face so long nobody wants to see it
or your chin will be scraping on the Hyderabad roads
not [Music] I have a question What will you do
Today many women in our modern society are stepping out
and having a career And I just like to know what do you
think of this of women stepping out being career people managing home as well being financially independent
Is this good Say every woman should do what she wants to do as an individual person
It should not be made into a trend in a society or the only right thing to do in the world because I think if if a woman
is intends to have two children and raise them I think it’s a full-time job
I’m not saying she should not go out and work If she wishes to as an individual person she’s free to do what she wants to do But having two children is not
about reproduction You are manufacturing the next generation of people How the world will
be tomorrow will be determined by what kind of mothers you have today Believe
me So why is it you know I’ve seen many ladies coming to me and say when I ask
what are you doing Oh I’m just a housewife I said why do you say you’re just a housewife
you you don’t seem to understand the significance of you know being able to
nurture two or three new lives It’s not it’s not a not important job It’s a very
important job I have to say this you know my my mother never any said
anything much She never went about telling me I love you or you love me or anything of this kind It’s just that she
simply lived and we it never occurred to us whether she loves us she doesn’t love
us Such questions never came because her whole life was dedicated to us You know
we know she lived for us She never said it once But that’s all it is And I
cannot imagine that part of my life without her being around
It is just that she never played an active role in what I am But the background that she set without the
ambiance that she set for me I would never be what I am for sure Whatever
else may be within me still the soil that she set around me without ever interfering with who I am what I am just
the ambiance she set around me and the effort she took to set that ambiance She gave her life to set that ambiance
knowing fully well it will play out somewhere And why does anybody think this is not
an important job in my life I feel what she did is the most important thing she
did to me And one of the most important things that have happened to me is early
life you never had to think about anything It was simply she made sure the
background was simply always there without a single thought about it Unconcerned about what’s happening
around you is what gave me the possibility of sitting with my eyes closed for days on end Otherwise this
wouldn’t be possible I’m saying so
career I want you to understand right now because we have made the whole world into economics unfortunately women also
getting as stupid as men as if how much money you earn is going to determine the value of your life No it is just
procurement of things that you need Money is just about that man was procuring Woman was taking about the
more beautiful aspects of life Now woman also wants to procure If there is such an economic need in the family fine she
must do it But it is not a compulsive need It must not be set up as something
better to do than doing something If she sings song if she if she plays music or
if she just loves her children or if she cooks beautifully or she just lives beautifully like a flower it’s good
enough I’m saying it is not necessary that only if she earns this much money she’s she is doing something valuable
otherwise she’s not If there is an economic need she can do it or if she has a passion for doing it she can do it
But let not such values be set up in the world because you are not evolving you’re regressing You are making
survival more important than aesthetics of life
Sguru you mentioned about the fact that uh I mean a true devotey is a one who is willing to like give uh himself up and
his agendas How does one work with this philosophy in let’s say any work you
know in this you know corporate world or you cannot in this business you just cannot because you have your own agendas
So don’t waste your time and devotion You must explore other ways
Devotion means taking your emotion to its highest pitch Yes
Isn’t it So you have various kinds of emotions
Devotion is held as the highest form of emotion because it’s least entangling
It’s liberating So taking your emotion to its highest pitch Devotees are insane people They’re
not reasonable people as far as the world is concerned They’re very beautiful people within themselves But
as far as the society is concerned they are usually insane people
Your miraabis I don’t know if you’ve heard of the South Indian devotees Akamaha Davis
all these people are very insane people You can’t live with them
after they are gone You can worship them when they are there Nobody could
understand what the hell is happening with these people I know Mera is so woripped in the
northern part of the country There is a wonderful book called Kakold
written by Kiranagar This is
life perspective of Miraabai’s husband
Let’s say you have a wife who believes she is Krishna’s wife not yours
all the time she’s going into such states that it’s like Krishna is with
him with her she’s dancing with him she’s loving him she’s kissing him she’s
everything okay she’s so deeply involved now you are the husband
are you going to appreciate appreciate her devotion or go insane with your own
problems Isn’t it So this book is the husband’s
perspective of Mera’s life how he experienced Mera
because devotees are like that They don’t belong to the logical dimension of life They are of a different thing
Devotion is one of the quickest ways to attain But
you won’t fit into normal social and other situations It’s not possible
If you want to fit into normal situations your family and social situations and still pursue spirituality
I am not saying devotion is completely absent in you There is a part of you
Your emotions are there So naturally certain amount of devotion happens here and there But you can’t choose it as a
path because you still want life to happen the way you want it
When you want life to happen the way you want it you should just learn to use your body and mind the way you want it
Then only things will happen the way you want it Isn’t it You can also attain through your
intelligence You can also attain through your
physical action You can also attain by transforming your inner energies
But you are not just any one of them You’re a combination So we are choosing a combination of these things So that
without disturbing external realities you can still evolve
If you want to preserve the external realities and still evolve then naturally there are compromises You go
slowly You’re not bothered what happens to your corporate world or to your husband or
wife or child or anything You just want to grow then it’s very quick
You want to preserve this also but you want something else to happen That is why we are going slowly
With different people we do different things There are some people who are not concerned about all those things With
them we work in a different way Now you are people who want to preserve
the external situation but still you want an internal possibility So we are going slowly I’m combination of all
these things not putting anything to a high pitch everything trying to raise to
the next level of experience not to the ultimate we just seeing how to push it
to the next level of experience
Devotion and corporation corporate world will not go Devotion and family life
will not go Devotion and anything will not go Devotion means everything else
has to dissolve That’s why I’m saying don’t talk devotion It’s just deception
Some moments when your experience raises to a certain pitch a moment of devotion may happen to
you Just wait for that moment It’s very wonderful But don’t try to pursue
devotion as your policy because there’s a very deep deception in it
See uh you’re talking about businesses Yeah
Businesses usually or initially when they start it’s a
question of personal success because of a certain volume
then it becomes a larger phenomena in a country or in the world but initially it’s a question of
personal success So that success has a personal stamp on
it If you want to peel that stamp off and
hand it over to somebody there are many problems There are many things in the process of building that you have
realized which can never be thought to another person Which they have to embibe by being
around the many small nuances So particularly businesses which are
crafted around a person it’s very difficult to pass it on It takes a certain amount of effort It
takes years and years of culturing people around you to be able to pass it on to somebody
And the effort that it takes to pass it on to people is so much Sometimes you
rather do the work yourself because it takes so much effort to
pass on a simple nuance of doing something in a particular way that it
feels like it’s better you do it And also beyond a certain age
you don’t care so much about the business as you cared about it in the beginning
Now as life es within you your concern is more about yourself how you are and
what’s happening to you and stuff So when that’s a thing others may be
thinking in terms of oh such a great business he’s not passing it on what he’s doing no succession plan and all
these things others may be thinking because they’re only looking at the bubble of success but that person has
done the bubble blown the bubble and now he’s matured into looking at his life
he’s looking at himself how he eats in the morning because an entrepreneur doesn’t eat on time doesn’t sleep on
time doesn’t do anything well when he’s building something now He wants to eat
well in the morning He wants to take a walk Maybe he wants to golf He wants to do something because
he knows whether consciously or unconsciously Everybody knows when the bones start creaking that uh your time
is limited Now you start looking this bubble looks great from outside Is it
worth building Is it worth investing more of your time in this But at the same time if you want to pass
it on to somebody you will have to spend more time on it than you doing it yourself So you just hoping you keep
doing it and one day maybe somebody will take over Whatever happens you don’t care Something will happen Some somebody
will take it and run it This may be the attitude of many business people and I’ve I’ve had very
close uh conversations with people like that and this is the reality with them
and I don’t blame them It’s fine That’s why I said right from the beginning if your interest is multi-dimensional your
growth would be multi-dimensional You would not feel this lethargy in this
The succession would naturally come because you allowed people to be around you to
embibbe things not just teaching them just allowing them to absorb okay how
things are done So that would make succession very simple You don’t have to name okay this
is the guy whoever absorbs one day you will see that it’s safer in this
person’s hands than anybody else’s hands so you hand over and that person what he
does what he or she does with it is entirely their own there is no guarantee
okay there’s no guarantee not necessarily because that person’s responsibility or
irresponsibility competence or incompetence a particular business
may be relevant to a particular time may not be relevant to another time
and uh it’s very difficult to come to terms with that that what I invested my whole life upon
is not relevant to the next generation of people is something very difficult for people to come to terms with So
entirely changing the very focus of business the business itself using the
financial capabilities that the business has to change the very focus
that level of entrepreneurship is not always there Sure
I want you to understand at some point in life at some stage in your life
human beings lose interest in money Only somebody who’s very rudimentary in his
mind maintains that interest to the end Most human beings lose interest in money
when they reach a certain point in their life
Initially probably you know these sayings are going around
uh time is money Yeah Slowly as age creeps in you begin to understand that
time is not money Time is life So as that understanding and experience
sinks in you would want to invest your time in a different way than just about
making money Entrepreneurship is essentially about investing your time to make money That’s why I said right from
day one if your attention and your interest is multi-dimensional you can succeed as an entrepreneur But
still you don’t have to be stuck in that one dimension which could be regressive
regretful later on if you spend too much time on it It’s good Some people choose to just retire no matter what Business
running well not well is not my business They have the necessary dispassion to hand it over and sit back and look okay
if it goes well it goes well It doesn’t go well it doesn’t go well Even I could have failed when I did
things Somebody else is failing It’s their privilege
[Music] I want to ask a question that when I’m playing
uh there is a couple of negative thought comes in my mind that you know when the bowler is running and he’s taking he’s
ready to uh deliver the ball suddenly the thought comes hit the ball
and that if that thought comes it’s difficult to control that that thought at that time because I’m about to hit
about to play that ball so how I’ll control that thought What uh should I
tell or what should I do to control that that thought Hit the ball is not a bad
thought Yeah it’s not bad thought But but still you know I can’t hit every ball No that is true But uh looking at
your track record you’ve hit the ball pretty well So that thought is a good thought not a bad thought Yeah But it
should not become a compulsive thought And above all so this is something that all of us have to understand Whether
it’s you’re playing cricket or you’re running a business or whatever you may be doing There is something called as
reality Yes There is something called as impressions of reality that we carry within ourselves Yes Suppose you never
played cricket in your life For the first time you stand there Yes If a ball comes at you you would naturally like to
look at it how it comes and then hit it Only because you played cricket for a certain number of years Yes Now you have
this thought because there is a score to fulfill and there are expectations this
time India has to win and so many things you know expectations of 1 billion
people Yeah All that stuff but actually uh you don’t play a game
I would call everything a game in life Yes Whether you’re on a playing field or you’re in a any other field it is a kind
of a game You don’t play any game well You don’t win a game because you want to
win You don’t hit a ball because you want to hit Yeah It is only because you
do something right it all works So if you want to do something right if you want to do anything right first thing is
we’re able to grasp the situation for what it is You’re expecting the ball at
160 km/h Suppose he lets it out at 60 km/h It’s
the easiest things to hit probably But you may miss it simply because you’re expecting it to happen in a certain way
This expectation is coming because your memory is projecting into reality and
making an unreal reality So if there is an intelligent bowler she reads this and
he will make those things And it is not always the fastest bowler or the one who
spins most who make gets the wickets It’s one who reads the batsman’s expectations and just does the reverse
of that who who manages to fox the batsman So it doesn’t matter which aspect of life whether sport or
otherwise the important thing is we are able to grasp what is there and
do the appropriate action Yeah in a sport it becomes very what to say uh
kind of focused because so many people watching and we know if you don’t hit the ball right all of us know it
Somebody’s driving if he instead of missing the pothole if he hits the pothole maybe not everybody notices
Somebody’s doing business instead of doing the right thing if he goes little off maybe not too many people notice it
But in sport if you don’t hit the ball if you don’t take the ball in the center
of the bat all of us notice it Yes Not just you Yes Not just the bowler Every one of us know that you didn’t hit it
right So because of that all this is building up I was just talking to
somebody and you know just then somebody was telling me we got to beat Pakistan this time I said don’t try to beat
Pakistan Just hit the ball Yes If you want to beat Pakistan they’ll wage a war
Okay You don’t try to beat Pakistan All you
have to do is hit the ball If you try to beat Pakistan Pakistan is not in the ball It’ll be
somewhere there Yes In trying to beat that all that will happen is you’ll go and sit in the pavilion That’s all that
will happen Yes In human mind there is perception there is memory
there is imagination People are not able to keep this thing separate
There is memory of the game There is imagination of how you will carry the cup and there is a reality of a ball
coming at you It is only the reality that you can handle Memory and imagination you can only fancy One is
about that which is over One is one is about that which is yet to happen The reality is the ball is coming and you
have a bat in your hand You have to hit hit it the way the ball deserves it not
the way India deserves it not the way Pakistan deserves it not the way somebody else deserves it You have to
hit the ball the way the ball deserves it the way it’s coming So to keep this clarity of mind there
are methods with which you can hold your mind in such a way that this moment if I
sit here the memory of who I am my parentage my upbringing my growing up my
things or things that I know if all these things come right now in my mind
I will not perceive what is here memory will play yes memory is not a reality
yes because it is about something that is over which does not exist That which
does not exist if it impedes into that which exists you will miss that which
exists This is so in everybody’s life but in a sports person’s life the effect of that
is immediate In other people’s lives it’ll pay out and they will see it after some time
that it doesn’t work But with your life is right there You either rather increase or you’re sitting up there and
clapping for somebody Yes it’s very clear So because of that it stands out but
this is true for everybody’s life So doing see when you are given such a sophisticated mechanism called mind
human mind is not a simple thing it’s a magnificent mechanism
even if you buy a phone a simple phone which they’re calling it smart it’s it’s not as smart as you okay
but even if you buy a phone you have to read a manual which runs into 20 pages of how to use it yes they’re not telling
you how it works they’re only telling you how to use it will take a certain amount of study If you want to know how
it works it will take much more Yes Amount of study Did you ever read the user manual for your brain No that’s a
whole thing We are not looking at how this works Simply we trying to use it by nature or
by accident People may get to use it but not consciously But is there is a method or there is a method technique to
there’s a very established method Okay My next question is is that only how
I’ll control that thought Don’t try to control it You need to liberate yourself from this Okay See I’m not talking about
controlling your mind I’m talking about liberating it from all kinds of
additions that it has added on Yes If you control your body if you control
your mind what it means is you control means to hold it within certain limits
But you become who you are in the world only because you cross the limits
only because you cross the limits that other people never cross You become whoever you are in the world So the
method should be not of control but of liberation Over a period of time you gather a body
and a certain level of mind These two if we know how to use it to
our advantage it’ll work one way but a whole lot of humanity uses their body
and their mind to their disadvantage Their body and mind are the biggest problems that they have in their life to
make this body and mind in such a way that you don’t have to control them What would you like to control You would like
to control something that’s gone bers You would like to control something which is destructive Why would you like
to control something that is creative something that is competent something that is capable why would you like to
control that Would you like to control your intelligence Because if if there is a certain level
of ignorance you want to control it Would you like to control your intelligence Would you like to control
your physical strength Would you like to control anything You would want to liberate it You would want to focus it
You would want to put it into proper use If this has to happen the most fundamental thing there are various
other methods If you have the necessary time more sophisticated methods can be approached Necessary time does not mean
you have to spend 12 hours a day or something If you spend 20 to 30 minutes a day you can do miraculous things for
yourself because you know how to play the game You know how to do all that All that it takes is little more clarity at
that moment And the body and mind responds with much more ease rather than
tension and fear and anxiety It responds with ease There is substantial
scientific and medical information today to clearly say only when you are at ease
your body and mind functions at its best We’ve given it to the cricket team also I don’t know if it reached you Uh this
is called as ishaka This a simple process The important thing is to make a
distinction between what is you and what is not you When I say what is you and what is not you whatever you associate
yourself with after some time you start experiencing it as myself because somewhere in your mind you identify with
it Starting from the most fundamental thing it goes into various things which causes
enormous amount of disturbance and misery But the most basic thing which breeds this is your own body and your
mind When we say your mind your mind is largely the thought process and emotions
that go on there This thought process and emotion mainly happens the way it happens because of the type of memory
that you have gathered there Obviously you gathered memory over a period of time Isn’t it The body the physical body
from the time when you were born and how you are today you gathered this over a period of time Anything that you can
gather can be yours but can never ever be you Isn’t it So to create a
distinction between what is you and what is not you If this distinction arises
which is what ishakria does If you bring this distinction into your life you will see suddenly your ability to use your
body and your mind is phenomenally enhanced many manyifold the same body
and same mind simply because you’re not tangled up with it You can use it so
much better simply because there is a little bit of space between you and your body and you and your mind This is
guaranteed from me Okay Thank you This is Vagab and I want to ask a
question Why the people in his life running after money
Shag why is somebody running after money Oh a whole lot of people around you are
running after the ball aren’t they
It’s wrong to assume that everybody’s running after money It is just that we
have made money the currency or a common in being on Ber system If you’re on Ber
system if I gave you a ball you will give me a bat Then we would be doing that But now you can buy a ball and a
bat with money You can buy a home and a car with money You can buy food and
comfort with money So money has become a common transaction tool and people need
that to live Now how they want to live They don’t
want to live well They want to live better than their neighbor Because of that money becomes important If they
just want to live money would be a small part of their life But now they want to
live better than their neighbor bigger than their neighbor So run behind
the money becomes an endless run Otherwise in a short period of time what
you need for your lifetime you can create in terms of money and then do what is significant for your life rather
than running after a tool which was just
created to simplify transactions
In of simplifying transactions it is complicated human life That is because
money is just a process But a whole lot of people are beginning to think that
money is a goal by itself Money is not a goal I want you to remember it is only a
process It’s an enabling process If you want to buy food you need money If you want to buy comfort you need money But
now you’re trying to buy a life with money You will not succeed for sure It
doesn’t matter whether you have 10 rupees today or 10 million tomorrow or
10 billion tomorrow I have seen many billionaire beggars still with the same
mentality Where is the next buck Money is only a tool
of transaction It is not a goal by itself It’s only a process Thank you
[Music] sir My question is as uh today we are
talking about unity on one hand and on the on the other we have reservation in
terms of admissions in colleges and job opportunities So isn’t it that it is
bringing diversity in our thoughts because unity of mind is the greatest
necessity of the time and this is bringing in bringing the diversity in
our thoughts So how can we uh what what measures can we have to remove it This
whole uh reservation policy when uh it was envisioned it was to be
for a short period of time to correct a certain ill which had taken place A certain injustice which had happened for
thousands of years A certain injustice which had occurred for thousand of thousands of years To
fix that we thought for a certain period of time we will give a certain segment
of people an extra advantage so that they can come level with the rest of the society But unfortunately
we have not been able to fulfill this vision even today Even today in villages
across the country if you belong to a certain cast or creed you cannot even enter a tea shop and have a tea You’re
not supposed to walk through certain streets Everything is separate It’s a segregated society even today If you do
not change this and change this very soon and the only way to change it is to educate and skill
India If you do not skill India you will kill it
So this has to happen at the earliest possible time because any kind of reservation if it lasts for too long
it’ll become a discriminatory process which is what you’re talking about So this honorous responsibility is there
that the discriminatory process that is being even today practiced in the
villages of India has to go Youth have a role to play We have done many things in
this direction but still it has not been solved It is a huge problem when such a
big problem is there taking away that little advantage they have It needs to be reviewed every few years whether it
is necessary in a certain area or not But such rightinking policies are not
possible These things are all happening on electoral basis Whether we will win the election with this policy or not
that has been the only goal So it is very important that it is addressed properly This is one thing that you can
do Whichever constituency you belong to the legislature members or the
parliament members that you elect the youth should participate in this and call for a debate with the people who
want to stay for a stand for election that see this is the statistic in our constituency Do we need this or not this
Can we change it or not A policy has to come on the national level that it is selective not across the nation In urban
areas definitely it may not be necessary but in many rural areas it is necessary because they have been disadvantaged for
thousands of years So without further ado um I want to
start off by asking you Satguru what is the next step for Satguru
Dinner Dinner I thought that was already over
So we expect a more profound answer from you [Applause]
It’s a very profound answer because you can postpone many things in your
life You can postpone buying a home buying a car You can postpone your
wedding if you want It’s a good thing
You can postpone your divorce Good to postpone your death but you can’t postpone your dinner
right now This is the ugliness which is happening in this country A whole lot of
people are postponing their dinner today This is the horrible situation that’s happening So
do not consider dinner as not so profound It’s very profound If you’re eating 10 times a day it’s not profound
If you’re eating once or if twice a day it is quite profound
So you say something which is you know which is very close to my heart You talked about dinner We No no Dinner is
about my stomach not my heart Okay We we’ll get to the heart through your stomach Um you know we live in a we live
in a world of contrast at least as I perceive it You know there is obviously the rich and the poor there are the ones
who are impoverished and the satiated Um you know we live in a country where 300
million people go to bed hungry every night How do we deal with these big
social issues And what is the one message that you would like to give to all of us where we as individuals
can make our own little big whatever contribution to being part of the
solution rather than waiting for somebody else to do something
Now you’re immediately getting into the machinery mode We can try a little bit of that
Yes it’s a serious problem and an unfortunate problem
because we are living in a land which has over 12,000 years of
agricultural history Probably the only place on the planet like this As far as I know except a few
other places in South America nowhere else on the planet was agriculture organized 12,000 years ago Mhm So we
have enormous experience of agriculture which means the science of producing food
and we’re living in a land where 12 months of the year you can grow what you
want Many farmers in Tamil Nadu take six crops four crops actually but in between
the intercropping totally six products they’re taking out of the same piece of land right nowhere else on the planet
this is really possible In spite of this half the people are hungry simply because of apathy not
because of lack of food not because that it is not possible to fulfill this I
feel a focused effort in a matter of 5 years 5 to 8 years very comfortably we
can crest this It should not even take that much time but if we are determined within five
years time it is possible to cross this and it’s important to cross this because
when you say India I know lot of poetry has been written about how beautiful it
is our mountains our rivers our whatever but for 1.25 25 billion people You
neither have enough mountains nor rivers nor land nor even a piece of sky Believe
me the only thing that you have is people
If these people are wellnourished
competent inspired this can be the greatest miracle
But right now 60% of India’s population even their skeletal system has not grown
to full size or in other words we producing a totally
underdeveloped humanity Mhm If your body does not grow to its full size neither
will your brains There’s medical evidence to show that first four years of your life if you did
not get the necessary nourishment your brain is approximately 60% of what it should be Right
So with halfbrain people the next generation what nation are you going to build
you’re going to be a big disaster if you don’t fix nourishment we are going to be an enormous disaster it’s waiting it’s a
silent bomb it doesn’t make noise very quietly it’s going to implode upon us
so this is something that has to be fixed in a war footing must be
so what is the role I know all of us as individuals have a role to play Um we
are all part of um a corporate an academic institution part of a community
and a society So what do you believe is the responsibility I’m not talking about
corporate social responsibility I’m simply talking about corporate responsibility when it comes to being
part of fixing some of the problems that you’ve just spoken about
I’ve uh know we are very much involved with nourishment education health of the
rural populations I’ve been talking to many leading lights Mhm
Not much light out there
Whenever I speak to a lot of people not all of them many of them
if I tell them you know we are planting 114 million trees you could do something
they’ll say they’ll tell me a very passionate story how they his wife or
his mother has a trust where she planted 108 trees Mhm around their factory and
how they have grown how beautiful they are and how it how they’re enjoying it in all this passion I just okay what’s
there to say 108 trees are good I’m not saying no But if your capacity was only
108 I’m I’ll bow down to you Your capacity is 108 million not 108 but
you’re satisfying yourself with 108 You talk about nourishment You say “You know
what My maid’s children they were so malnourished Three of them every Sunday
we feed them.” These kind of stories I’ve heard of great compassion and love
So there is a whole culture of doing something for your satisfaction or doing
something because you want to buy a ticket to heaven
I want people to come to a place where you being fulfilled should happen within
you If you want to go to heaven please leave [Laughter]
But if you want to be a solution there’s another way to work Right I’ve fed two
children and I feel very happy It’s all right I appreciate that I’m glad for those two children But this is not a
solution This is only for satisfaction So it’s time at least those people who
are in a certain level of capability I would say when I say capability all of you are thinking oh okay some big
corporate leader I’m saying all of you are in a certain level of capability who should see how to bring a solution not
do something for your silly satisfaction you can be satisfied by eating food by
simply sitting quietly by sleeping well doing whatever satisfaction need not come through somebody else’s suffering
you don’t have to fulfill your satisfaction because of is you know
somebody’s suffering that is not the basis of your suffering and if you buy a ticket to heaven through that suffering
I don’t know hell will turn into hell for probably for you I hope it does
[Music] I happen to be in Tel Aviv
I was supposed to speak to a group of people and uh I was to arrive there at noon time and
address But because of some delays in the flight I landed at 6:00 6:30 is my talk This is
30 years of ISA In this 30 years I have not been late to a single appointment till now
So I didn’t want to break that So from the airport I went straight So I
discovered when I went there I was to speak in a restaurant
You eat in a restaurant Some restaurants are famous for food
Some are famous for the ambiance that they set but some are famous for the
conversations that happen in the restaurant So it seems in Tel Aviv the
most intelligent conversations happened in this restaurant and not in the parliament
I went there people were greeting me and one man came and said shalom I said what does it mean He said uh this means this
is the highest way of greeting I said that is your opinion but what does it mean He said it means peace This is the
highest way of greeting I said why would peace be the highest way of greeting
unless you born in Middle East in South India If somebody comes up to me in the morning and says peace I will
ask him what’s wrong with you Whatever you deprived of becomes the
highest thing If you’re deprived of food that becomes the highest thing If you’re deprived of love that becomes the highest thing If all these things are
taken care of one thing that a human being will always long for is to be free
from everything To be free essentially means to move from a compulsive nature
of existence to a conscious nature of existence This is what is needed right
now in our country as a nation We evolved a system as to how to develop an
individual human being We never evolved a system as to how to develop a society
This system we called as samskriti Today this word is being dismissed as culture
It is not culture Sam means equinimous Kriti means to do To do life in an
equinimous manner Another meaning for sum is exuberance Another meaning for sum is well To do your life in an
equinimous way In an exuberant way I’m doing it well If you do this everything
around you will be okay Today we are trying to impose moral codes upon our society
You need to understand India is a society without morality because we
always relied on stirring up our humanity rather than depending upon the morality The morality of one person is
an obscinity for another person So we always had means and ways and
tools as to how to stir up the humanity within us and that humanity has been the
basis of this nation It is that fundamental human longing to become free
which has been the main thread which is holding all these multiple cultures together as one nation Though we you
know we being it is being propagated like India was born in 1947 No the other
cultures everywhere in the world experienced this as one nation for
thousands of years Even though there were many political entities many times over 100 entities in spite of that
people saw it as bat because they saw these unique people who did not believe
in anything particular who had no moral sense but they were perfectly on the track because they were not a bundle of
morality but an efferves in humanity This has to be brought back into India
because when you are a seeker you are not in
collision with anybody When you are a seeker there is a certain humility about you
because you have not assumed anything You can become a seeker only when you
realize the immensity of I do not know If you have realized the immensity that
you do not know so many things about the existence with so much science and technology we still cannot figure one
single atom in its entirety That is the reality of our existence [Music]
So I think the first one that I wanted to pick up on and it was the bit that I found most inspiring from your session
this morning was you you made a lot of play on the difference between the solidity inside and then the kind of the
personality and the identity that we portray to the outside world And I feel
that some of the biggest challenges we face as marketers and in brands is that we spend a huge amount of time thinking
about the way we portray ourselves to the outside world but we don’t really get ourselves quite inside first From
the experience that you’ve had dealing with individuals about that what advice would you give to business people and to
brands about how they can start the process of getting right inside first
So the fundamental flaw in this entire process is
without enhancing yourself you’re trying to enhance your activity
It’s like you’re from UK Scotland Yes Scotland
You take a junk wax hall
and try to drive it on the F1 track it’s bound to fall apart
Instead of dreaming of winning an F1 race if you build a machine
which is capable of doing whatever your intelligence allows to build whatever kind If you build one
then it’ll do whatever it does Whether it wins or not is subject to what others have done
Whether you win a race or not simply depends on how good or bad other people are
But when we do something
are we functioning from the highest possibility within us or from the lowest possibility or somewhere in between is a
big question And the biggest question in human life is you do not know what is your highest
possibility For every other creature on this planet
nature has drawn two lines within that they live and go But the human being
there’s only bottom line There’s no top line So it doesn’t matter what you become you
still don’t know whether you’ve hit the peak or not Only those people who are only
interested in winning races with other crippled people they have hit the peak
But any genuine human being who is exploring his own nature you never know if you’ve hit your peak
because there is still room no matter what you have done So enhancing
the machine this human mechanism is most important Whether you win the race or
not whether you did this or not is not important If you have this enhanced everything that you do will be enhanced
People around you think you’re superhuman simply because everything that you do seems to be of a different
nature of a different quality that they can’t imagine Not because you’re
intending to do do things better than other people simply because you have spent time to enhance this one
So this is a fundamental flaw in the attitude with which people
are entering the world Instead of building a great mechanism which will
whatever it does will be of a great possibility People are trying to do great things
which is which is going to kill them That’s why successful people are miserable Somehow they’ve managed to do
something and it’s taking such a big toll on them
How might we unwind some of that So what what I find great about the way that you express all of this is you you have a
great confidence which clearly comes through from the way that you no confidence maybe I should reexpress that
then you you clearly talk from the heart this is somebody who’s so that’s the thing the only quality is clarity
people think confidence is a substitute for clarity that’s the biggest disaster
okay the great disaster in the planet is people who have no clarity have
confidence Nice That maps beautifully back to a lot of
the brands is that where they don’t have clarity they represent confidence in the activities that they do But I think that goes back So that’s why all the loud
advertising because there is no clarity but there is confidence See
you are who you are only because of whatever you might have
perceived What you what you have not perceived is
not you Isn’t it You see whether you consciously aware of
this or not How people experience you right now is whatever you have perceived
in whichever way is finding expression That is what people’s experience of you are and that is what your experience of
yourself is Whatever you have perceived that’s all Instead of enhancing
perception we are trying to enhance again expression
You you are in the social media stuff Everybody wants to express anything and
everything No matter whether they know something or don’t know something everybody wants to express
This is the age of expression without perception It’s a disaster People are
becoming who they are because of what they express not because of what they have perceived
If you are who you are because essentially in life the nature of life
is such only what what you have perceived is you But right now because
you pick bits and pieces all over the world you can express all kinds of things that you don’t know
See today a 12y old child looks bored
Never before it was so It’s only in this generation because he’s seen the cosmos through his phone screen
He knows everything There’s nothing he does not know The facts are all there But maybe they
not facts [Laughter] They are not facts You you call them
facts All right You can call them facts if you want to But I’m saying
me knowing how many million light years away is a
particular galaxy which we call as Z127 is not knowledge
Whether it’s 10 million light years or 100 million light years makes no
difference because in my perception there is no way to experience a light year First of all
it’s it’s all conceptual It is not experiential Unless your perception is experiential
it doesn’t enhance you It is just accumulation Like people accumulate wealth money
useless things all over trinkets People are accumulating knowledge or information
trinkets which will make them look smart in a tea party only in comparison to somebody else who
does not know where Galaxy Z127 is So
based on that that concept of it’s not a concept Okay The idea of the experience
versus the perception I want to I want to look a little bit more about that and what you were talking about the accumulation of information which is a
big problem for our industry We are obsessing about things like big data We’re obsessing about all the gadgets
that we collect and we’re missing that experience bit that you talk about So we’ve amassed however many millions of
bytes of data that the gentleman just now on today was just talking about but we’re not using them to understand How
would you advise when you bite so much you’ll bloat This is true and get
unhealthy Obesity is not a good thing in any context How do we translate that
desire to learn into the action that makes the learning valuable Where do we
help people move along that journey See in this question there’s a
fundamental flaw Okay In the sense because you belong to a generation which
is goal oriented True Goal oriented means you are interested in the mango
the sweetness of the mango but you are not interested in the tree
Because slowly you’re living in a generation where mango comes from a supermarket not from a tree
It may so happen in a laboratory they will make a mango All right
But if you want mangoes in your garden
you don’t have to think mangoes You don’t have to meditate upon mangoes You have to think soil filth manure water
sunlight No mangoes in your mind You have only manure soil water sunlight in
your mind Mangoes will happen Or in other words you are too interested in
the consequence but not in the process which causes the consequence This is
goal orientedness In yoga we say if you have one eye on the goal you have only
one eye to find your way It’s inefficient If you use both your eyes to find your
way according to your capability you will go as far as you can go That means you’re not concerned how far
somebody is going You want to go as far as you can go That’s what you’re interested in But right now this goal
orientedness means you’re only interested in going one step further than your neighbor Uh-huh Or in other
words the only joy that you have in your life is somebody is doing worse than you
I think that’s a sick mind I agree with you Absolutely I’m going to I’m going to keep pressing
you on that question How do we help people see past that mentality which is
holding us back What What can we suggest to our peers in marketing to change them
away from this door from digital to divine [Laughter]
Where do we find the because I I I love the fact that you’re talking about we cannot be goal oriented
but at the same time many businesses face the imposition of goals from others who determine our ability to survive
which I kind of know you’re going to say is flawed and I would agree with it but nonetheless we need to help people to
see the alternative to what is flawed said tell me tell me one thing
you can look at Mr Bolt you know
you could look at Mr Bolt for inspiration all right
but if you try to run like him you’ll break your leg legs that’s all that’ll happen
for inspiration you can look at Mr Bold perfectly fine you can look at Mr Sachin
Tendulkar for inspiration You try to go and face a ball which is
coming at 160 km/h a hard ball you’ll kill yourself Really
most people know cricket only on television So they think it’s a nice game Go and stand there It’s the most
violent game Projectiles are coming at you at tremendous speed giving you a fraction
of a second to react and hit the ball because they see it only on television and they think it’s a nice beautiful
game No it’s among all the games that are popular today in the world it is the
most dangerous game Nowhere else any hard ball is coming at you at that speed
Really most of the time coming at your head [Laughter] There’s a certain degree of animosity in
some of the way that this is being uh No no I I’m saying
because somebody mastered that with he was talking to you about the
level of dedication right from his childhood how he’s involved so tendulkar is tendulkar all right you can use him
as an inspiration but you don’t try to do what he’s doing today afternoon because you’ll be dead
yes so you can use a high level of whatever
somebody has set a goal as an inspiration Somebody is running 100 m in 8 seconds
You can use it as an inspiration Don’t try to do it It’s like a waxall trying to be a
Ferrari It’s that that benchmark that we obsess
so much about marketers that you want to be like them You think that replicating everything that they do becomes a danger
That’s that’s the biggest mistake because who knows maybe you can hit the
ball better than Tendulkar right now Why do you want to limit yourself to Tendulkar standards
There was a time nobody believed that you will reach 100 in a cricket game
only after 35 to 40 overs
I remember this change that happened first time sanat jaurya hit the ball
within the first 20 overs 100 now people are hitting it within eight nine overs
okay because they’re not thinking about what
somebody did you hit the ball according to your capability who knows maybe you’ll hit it
better than tendulkar we don’t know the possibility is there In reality there may be a
distance that’s different but the possibility is there So if you become goal oriented
your goals are always determined by other people’s capabilities
You will never do what you could have done Maybe you can’t hit a ball Maybe you could do something else way better
than anybody else But you will never do that because you go on trying to hit the ball that you can’t hit So this concept
of the memoryless intelligence that you talked about
how can a marketer access that because we are probably some of the most insecure people in market people cannot
access it Human human beings can okay markets cannot few
times when I was at the economic forum the world economic forum people keep on referring to India as emerging market I
say don’t refer to as market we are not a marketplace once you think somebody’s market
how are you going to approach them you going to put some nonsense that you have
created try to convince them they drink this or eat this or buy this or use it
or whatever If I saw you as a human being and I’m concerned about you and your
well-being I would see what you need If I do what I what you need if I
manufacture what you need I don’t have to market it Market man will go out
Manufacturing is all that’s needed But right now you’re doing something that people don’t need and you have to
convince them that they need it It’s very clear even a kindergarten child knows that this body doesn’t need carbon
dioxide It needs oxygen But somebody is putting carbon dioxide in the bottle and
calling it the real thing So they need marketing Marketing
department is bigger than the manufacturing because you’re trying to convince somebody carbon dioxide is good
for you Well you may you may convince a generation A whole generation was
convinced smoking tobacco is the best thing you could do If you’re a man you must smoke Otherwise you’re not a man
Yes or no A whole generation believed if I don’t smoke and blow the smoke in your face I’m not man enough But now suddenly
is become no good So this is what the marketing men will do They are trying to sell
something that people may not need Instead of looking at someone as market if you look at them in human beings with
some concern you would know what they need If you manufacture that you don’t
have to market it They will stand in a queue So I’m going to use somebody else’s
words in response to that because this is something that I have hopefully believed for a long time as well A
friend of mine said that as marketers we’ve got to stop trying to make people want things and we’ve got to try and
make the things that people want It’s fundamentally obvious to me and yet and in as you I’m saying largely marketmen
will get eliminated manufacturing and people in between little marketing
both you and me are manufacturing something that he wants but now I’m trying to tell him what I’m
manufacturing is really what you want not what this guy is doing actually
that’s the truth you talked a lot by all the gadgets that
we have access to all this amazing technology and yet we fail to use the best of the gadgets that we have which is our own brain Not that we are not
using it We are using it in a very skewed way Right We’re we’re not able to
listen correctly We’re not able to understand what it is that those people want Even though we have access to all
these amazing things I use a lot of social media which in theory allows me to listen to the conversations of
millions of people at any given time And yet I find it very gossip gone global
There’s an awful lot of gossip about this We talked a lot yesterday about the food photos This fascinating thing that
200 million people have taken photos of food and uploaded them to Instagram And the question is why are we doing this
Because uh food looks prettier than the people who eat them
Slightly disconcerting concept Absolutely true No No If people are taking pictures of the food they eat and
putting it on obviously they think it looks prettier than them We have access to the insights that that
shares about what they believe is pretty and what what they enjoy in life But we’re not using it See all this is
happening I mean leave the jokes apart This is because people are trying because now they found
a means a technological means to find expression Expression more than perception means
marketing department is bigger than manufacturing Okay That’s all that’s happening
What would then the perception bit look like Hm See
what would perception look like See there are only five instruments of perception right now for you Seeing
hearing smelling tasting touching So what you perceive through these five
senses a certain process an amalgamated process
of these five senses Right now you’re sitting here you’re seeing you’re hearing I hope you’re not smelling anything
But actually it’s all happening Smelling sensations heat cold all these things
are happening You may not be conscious of it unless it becomes acute Otherwise if you walk from there to
there there are 25 different kind of smells minimum I’m saying but most of
the time you’re not conscious of it unless something becomes very pleasant or very unpleasant
So every moment all the five senses are recording phenomenal amount of information
Now the process the processing of this information is happening from a certain
prejudice when I say prejudice the identity causes prejudice If you’re
functioning from an identity whatever you are English I’m Indian somebody’s
man somebody’s woman these all prejudice People think they’re broad-minded Well it’s a broad prejudice
Yes The moment you’re identified with something there is a certain prejudice attached to it You can’t help it That’s
the way the intellect works because intellect cannot function without identity
If you take away identity your thoughts will become still That’s all it is
That’s what is called meditation If you can sit here without being identified
with the physiological or psychological or the worldly process that’s going on
you will become meditative because you’re not identified with anything Your intellect becomes quiet
As long as you’re identified do what you want You cannot stop it It’s like you
eat in bad food then you want to control the gas It won’t work
It’ll anyway happen So now you’re identified with something that you are not See you belonging to a certain
nation You belonging to this or that is something that we made up All right What
we make up we must manage But what we made up has gone out of
control You identify to such a point you really think it’s easy You’re willing to live and die for it So because of that
identity what you call as my mind or intellect has become prejudiced in a
certain way From that prejudice is working It’s okay for survival process
This prejudice is good for survival process But if you wanting to look for clarity you want to see things the way
they are You want to perceive life just the way it is Not the way not as an English man not as an Indian not as a
man not as a woman but you want to experience life just the way it is Then
you must have the ability to distance yourself from identity and just look at it It’s not that you are not at all
doing it Every human being is becoming released from their identity at some point of involvement with something Okay
But it’s not a conscious process It’s not by choice Once in a way it’s
happening those moments they produce something significant rest of the time they’re just a mess I’m talking about if
you have a machine every time you touch it it must fire all
right intermittently it fires once in a way that’s not a great machine The same
goes for the human being If you have a spark of genius you must be able to make
it happen spark all the time 24 hours Otherwise it fires once in a way
accidentally Then you become astrological You’re looking for the right position of the planet for you to
fire That’s that’s inefficiency That inefficiency is coming because
perception is blocked Is there a way to manage that Oh yes
there’s an entire science as there is a science and technology to create
external situations the way we want it There is a whole science and technology to create inner situation the way we
where you want it This is what we’re calling as inner engineering to engineer your interiority the way you want
Looking at that in a bit more detail the bit you were talking there about stepping away from the identity piece
which I think is is really interesting because brands are all about creating their identity And yet I love the way
that you’re saying it’s not until we get out of our identity that we can see the bigger opportunities and how to become
what we want How how can we help people to understand how
to unravel that identity How do we step away from all the things that we spend time
See this question is coming from a fundamental that you believe that
everything can be fixed intellectually Yes No it cannot be
As I said when I was speaking in the morning the other dimension of intelligence within you If you I think
today people are beginning to talk about emotional uh what
emotional intelligence not just IQ EQ and whatever This is just rudimentary
steps taking at least one small step but a rudimentary step This is essentially
uh a very deeprooted western malice which has gotten into everybody today
across because all of us are going through western education We may be living in India but our education is
completely unfortunately English because
intellect is supreme This is a European idea
In India we have not given much significance to intellect because your
intellect always functions from a limited data that you have gathered
Your thought process happens only from the limited data that you have If you function from your thought process
nothing new will ever happen in your life because you’re just recycling the old all the time Maybe you can produce
permutations and combinations of that Here our focus has always been how to
enhance your perception Don’t worry about your thought whether it looks smart or dumb It that’s not the
issue How to enhance the perception If your ability to perceive life is
enhanced naturally your ability to act in the world is naturally enhanced
without any effort So a very simple way that people could
start to experience because you know how people are people like to experience it once and once they see it they believe it and then they do it What’s what’s the
smallest catalyst that we can encourage our peers and our friends in the industry We can give you a simple a
12minut simple process of meditation Okay It’s available on the web We can
give you a CD It’s freely available Millions of people have practiced this very simple form If they do that and if
it works they can do something more serious It’s called I ishaka You just go on the
net and say ishaka It’ll come up There’s a phone app You can put it on your phone Phone app Yoga is a technology for
wellbeing Okay Actually our the tagline is in
engineering technologies for wellbeing You don’t need to believe it The why I’m
insisting is a technology is it doesn’t matter who you are whether what uh gods
you believe in or you disbelieve in which part of the geography you come from If you learn to use it it works
That’s the beauty of technology here If you learn to use it it works And
that’s the nature of yoga If you learn to use it it’ll work for you It doesn’t matter who you are where you come from
what you believe or disbelieve So these are technologies for well-being
making use of out external technologies to disseminate the same is a natural
outcome It’s a very natural thing to do So for
the first time in the history of humanity our ability to reach
human beings on this planet is like never before The speed and the scope of
it is unimaginable just 25 years ago or even 10 years ago if you ask me
But people tell me I don’t know if this is uh factually correct but people tell
me 60% of the inner internet space is covered by pornographic material I don’t
know if I’m right on the figure but people tell me so I think that’s a crime
So I’m making an effort technologies for inner well-being of the
human being must dominate the space so that human beings learn how to be well
That the tools for well-being must be in the hands of every human being The tools
for well-being must be in the hands of individual human beings not in the hands of organizations gurus popes no matter
what I’m saying the tools for your well-being must be in your hands not in my hands Unfortunately you left it in my
hands I’m trying to see put it into your hands So please give us the digital
support Gladly to make that happen But I did want to
just go back to one of the things and it touches something that I’ve been frustrated about for a while and I know you say an end to frustration So I’m I’m
going to level this one with you and ask for some advice this this idea that the western way of doing things is in
conflict with a sense of individual I don’t know what you want to call it
enlightenment feels a little bit of a a loaded word but this idea that the western way of looking at things of
education of success and all this kind of stuff is it feels like you were saying there’s a a competition to
there’s a conflict to how do we help people that have been indoctrinated I
grew grow up in that culture and I find it very difficult to unravel all of the things that I’ve learned and I’ve been taught and all this kind of stuff How do
we help people to get past the fear that is involved in seeing an alternative way
of entire life because that’s what everything until now has been built on It’s overcoming that fear How do we help
people to become See the basic issue is
do you want to look good or feel good or be good within yourself A lot of the
western world sees it’s about looking good Looking good is more important than
what’s happening within you Even if you’re a tortured human being within you you just have to look smart and nice and
like that This has to be taken away from an early
childhood Looking good is not important What is your experience of life Is your
experience of life great or not This is what is important This value change must
happen It’s not uh something that you can change overnight in the world But
those who suffer immensely will change I see that suffering coming because
suffering is getting younger and younger There was a time only people used to be
worried Now you see a 12-year-old boy is seriously worried So when that kind of
suffering comes looking good is not important When suffering becomes unbearable people will understand
looking good is not important How I experience my life is important You hear this talk all over isn’t it These days
still the necessary corrections have not been made but people are beginning to talk So this is the time technologies
for inner well-being are transmitted The time is right [Laughter]
[Music] A thousand years ago India contributed to the world in terms
of 53% of the world’s economy was India 500 years ago we were about 26% of the
world’s economy When the British left us in 1947 we were 3.6% of the world’s
economy Today we have risen to 6% But as a population we are almost 25% of the
world’s population We must at least achieve this 25% of the world’s economy
in the remaining 5 to 10 years If we do not do this we will keep our people
subjugated forever We are at a unique time That is for the first time For the
very first time we have the necessary tools we have resources we have the
capability and we have the technology to address every human problem in this
country and the rest of the world This generation has a unique opportunity that
we can move about 600 million people from one level of existence to a
completely different level of existence in an incredibly short time because we have all the means in place The only
thing that is missing is an inclusive consciousness among the people And this
is going to be the fundamental challenge that we will not identify with little
identities that we have around us We will not demolish them either because you cannot demolish that but a larger
identity of the nation The youth of India today has this tremendous
possibility responsibility and a privilege in front of you that you could change the way
people live in this country We have had a whole lot of people almost three4s of
this nation’s population has had such a bad deal Such a bad deal A large part of
them are still in a an extremely bad situation where about 29 rupees is
wealth per day When we’re in such a situation we have an opportunity to change this We have
everything in place Only you and me have to get into place That’s the only thing that’s missing to make India once again
a glorious nation When I talk about glory I’m not talking about the economic
or the military progress of the nation Yes that is also needed But more than
that India should embrace the world like a garland
India is capable of bringing a new level new paradigm of success into the world a
new paradigm of what it means to be successful in terms of bringing human
well-being We have the necessary technologies and the wisdom to make this happens We have to make this world a
beautiful place not by conquest not by capturing but by captivating the world
[Applause] [Music]
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mother [Music]
go shine The earth
[Music]
good afternoon everybody So the first question would naturally be
what is that prayer about It’s not a prayer It’s an invocation An invocation
means there is a whole technology as to how to organize your system to do a
particular action As human beings we do so many things in
our lives You want to run a race your body your brain your energy needs to be
in a certain way You want to meet a friend it needs to be
in another way You want to do something else which needs your intellect on it needs to be
in another way Like this for different types of activities that we perform in our life We need to have our system in a
certain way A lot of people are managing to make it happen
naturally or the situation will slowly set them in People will enter a situation unprepared Gradually the
situation will mold their mind their energies and everything to function well there
But there is a way that you can consciously create an inner situation
where you craft that situation within yourself so that
you’re organized in every way All the faculties within you your body your mind
your emotion and your energy is properly organized for that specific activity
There is a whole science and technology as to how to go about this inner organization within a human being
When we say uh a leader or when we say ambition
ambition is just an exaggeration of the existing When we say vision as the word suggests
it is about a new possibility something which is not yet
Ambition is about wanting to take as much as we
can take Vision is about making everything yours
One is an aggressive way of taking it and it is an embrace It is like the
distinction between love and rape puts into the same for external views but
it’s a world of difference Making the world yield to you willingly
and trying to take a piece of the world are two different dimensions of life As
human beings like never before we are empowered
individual human beings we have become so powerful because of technological advancement
What 10,000 men could do thousand years ago today one man can do When we are so
hugely empowered it’s extremely important that the way we exist here is
in a more inclusive way All this philosophy is it possible for a
businessman It is very much possible and especially not possible It is very much needed for the businessman because
business is about expansion Does expansion happen because of
inclusiveness or does expansion happen because you forcefully take something If
you forcefully take something you will never expand to the full capacity Only
if you learn how to make the world yield to what you want it to be Only then you
can take it all Ambition is about more Vision is about all
When it’s a leadership a leader is somebody who is trying to create a
situation and people are looking up to him believing that he’s going to make it happen So that means he must be in some
position within himself that he is able to see things better than the people around him
Business leadership or managing large situations If you want to manage 1,000
people essentially you are managing 1,000 minds
If you want to manage 1,000 minds if you are not even able to manage your own
mind it is going to be accidental management
And because of this accidental management you will see managers of the world are the most tense looking human
beings We are sending a completely wrong message to the world
If you succeed you will suffer This is the message that’s going to the
world It happened in 60s in America because all the successful people are so miserable The youth did not see that
success is worthwhile They thought just sitting on a street corner and smoking pot is much better At least we are happy
So this is a very wrong message that success is a bad thing is a horrible
message for humanity and the future generations to come Right now this message is going out because you will
see successful people hard look have the most miserable place faces on the planet
Success is should be a sweet thing but success has become a suffering
simply because we are managing to do outside things without doing anything
about ourselves If the work that you’re doing is important the first thing that
you need to do is work upon yourself What does working upon yourself mean
See as you sit here each human being is his own simply
because of the accumulation of experiences that have happened in different people and how all this is
assimilated within each person Each human being is his own And that’s the beauty of human beings You can’t find a
carbon copy anywhere Everybody is unique This uniqueness will be a wonderful
thing if it functions cohesively The same uniqueness if it does not
function cohesively This uniqueness has to be called your really unique means That means you’re a
freak Only if this uniqueness functions cohesively this unique uniqueness can be
celebrated and enjoyed and the world can benefit from this and the individual can benefit from this Our idea of success
has become like this right now that we are sitting you know there’s a proverbial story in India about a man
sitting on a tree branch and cutting it but sitting on the wrong end of it If he succeeds he will fail
Right now we have brought the world to such a situation that if we succeed we will fail In 2008 when I was uh at the
World Economic Forum the recession was just beginning and I
saw all these 2,000 or people who are hugely successful people carrying very
long faces Recession is coming recession is coming So they asked me to handle a session called recession and depression
[Laughter] I said recession is bad enough you don’t have to get depressed on top of it
And uh the way we have created this whole situation is such
if we if we fail we will be depressed If we
succeed we will be damned That’s how we have created the situation
If all the 7ent billion people on this planet use modern technology and get
super busy I think the planet just has 10 15 years left Fortunately 50% of the
people are lazy Really
now it’s not human intelligence which is saving the planet It is not human love or compassion saving the planet It is
human lethargy which is saving the planet That’s a shame isn’t it
simply because our ideas of success our ideas of well-being itself has not been
consciously worked at It’s just like we have just grown like wilderness
Now today leadership means that we are able to re-engineer
our very idea of success well-being in the world If we don’t do this now the
success will be a bad thing all the younger generations are becoming activists who are against any kind of
successful activity on the planet I was I happened to be in a conference in
London a major conference almost 3,000 people participating all kinds of people
and uh this is about be the change and here all kinds of things were going on and is listening with great apprehension
for what things that were being said one man has come from India he’s brought
10 tribals from India carrying one bag of tea he said see I have brought the
producer himself to UK Okay And they are going to sell their tea bags right here
and they’re going to take their money Nobody in between No corporations nothing No cash direct
I said when my turn to speak him I said it’s okay I don’t mind buying a tribal
tea but I fly Luansa I don’t want to fly a tribal airline
where two out of the four engines are working The idea of creating corporations and
businesses was to make our life more efficient not monstrous
It will become monstrous if we function out of individual ambition rather than a
larger vision Somehow get there This is the way of the ambition
Somehow get there We’ll work only short term Can I tell a story
Can I tell you a story I seek your permission because it is probably just
post lunch for many of you And uh the moment I say once upon a time a lot of
people think it’s bedtime It’s not
On a certain day a bull and a pheasant were grazing upon the field
The bull eating the grass the pheasant picking ticks off the bull partnership
business There was a huge tree at the edge of the
field The pheasant nostalgically looked at the tree and said “Oh Alas there was
a time I could fly to the topmost branch of the tree But now I don’t have enough strength in my wing even to fly to the
first branch of the tree.” The bull wearing nonchalantly said “That’s no issue Eat a little bit of my dung every
day Within a fortnight you will reach the top of the tree.” The feasant said “Come on what kind of nonsense is that?”
The bull said “Really try and see the whole humanity is on it
The pheasant hesitantly started picking at the dung and low on the very first
day it reached the first branch of the tree Within a fortnight it did reach the topmost branch of the tree It sat on the
topmost branch of the tree beginning to enjoy the scenery An old farmer who was
rocking in the rocking chair saw a fat old feeasant sitting on top of the tree
pulled out his shotgun and shot the bird off the tree The moral of the story is
many times can get you to the top but it’ll never let you stay there
If if an external observer looks at our world the human activity
over a span of a few hundred years and looks at what we have done with
ourselves This will be our story We just somehow made it and then
collapsed This is it is no more about somehow making it We are right now allowing
social and other environments to shape human consciousness No human
consciousness should shape our business environment the social environment and the world’s environment instead of
allowing the human consciousness to do the other Right now we are allowing the circumstances to change the human
consciousness The sense of being human is every other animal adapts to its
situation We can create our situations This is the fundamental of being human
Otherwise we are no different from any other creature on this planet Everybody else is capable of adapting We are
capable of crafting the situations that we want Now leadership means just this
that we have a vision to craft the situation where everybody can fit in and
everybody can prosper And our ideas of prosperity has to change because right
now if we have to provide what an average American citizen has to 7
billion people the living earth statistics says that we need 4 and a
half planets We just have one and there’s another one 8 million light
years away If you’re up for the travel there’s just one more another two and a
half we need to find somewhere So our success itself is working against
us This is not a good thing If we do well we will do badly This is not a good way to craft our
situations because our idea of doing well is just being little better than
yesterday Just being little better than yesterday is not doing well This
happened in 1910 There was a man in India his name was
Topiwala Topiwala means a hat seller You have this culture here also that
somebody’s second name happens to be his profession Carpenter goldsmith blacksmith whatever like that he is a
hat seller He’s a topiiala He was going from village to village in tropical heat selling hats One afternoon
he’s tired sat under a tree opened his meager lunch ate and dozed off
When he opened his eyes he looked all the hats were gone He looked all over
the place No hats They just gone disappeared If you do everything that you can do and
it doesn’t work what do you do Usually look up in prayer So he looked up there
He saw a bunch of monkeys all sitting with hats on
He screamed at them They screamed back at him He abused them They abused in
their own language He picked up whatever he could and threw it at them They picked up whatever they could and threw
it back at him Not knowing what to do Frustrated he took his hat and flung it
on the ground All the monkeys took their hats and flung it on the ground He picked up his
hat and went about his business 2012 23rd of September another topa
going from village to village selling hats he came in the afternoon sat under the tree opened his elaborate lunch 21st
century had his lunch promptly fell asleep when
he opened his eyes hats were gone he didn’t look here and there he looked straight up
the monkeys were sitting with hats on he got up and jived D They all jived He
made funny faces They made funnier faces He had all the fun he wanted to have When he was done he took his hat and
flung it on the ground One baboon of a monkey quickly came down the tree picked up the hat
walked up to him gave him a tight slap in the face and told him “You idiot You
think only you had a grandfather
So just one step ahead of us today is not leadership
Leadership has to craft Today we have come to a place where the economic leadership has moving into a certain
position in the sense about 300 years ago largely religious leadership
was controlling the world From mindlessness of religious
leadership we moved into the tyranny of the military leadership From the tyranny
of the military leadership we moved into the confusion of democratic leadership
Confusion and incompetence of democratic leadership in many ways because 100 people are running to trying to run the
place In India it’s 542 people trying to run the nation
By the time you make this 542 people understand what is needed and what
should be done tomorrow morning it will take 5 years and they are not there by
then So today we are moving into a place where in the next 1015 years time the
economic leadership will be the most important leadership in the world We are definitely going there
The good thing about the business leader is he has no qualms about anything If there
is a good deal he will make a deal with the devil He has no prejudices about anybody You
are white you’re black you’re yellow you’re this you’re that He has no issues He will make a deal with the devil if
the deal is good So the economic leadership is in many
ways in the very nature of things it is very flexible leadership
If we train this leadership if we bring about now an institution like this and many others if we bring about the
necessary shift from economic leaders operating out of narrow personal
ambitions to a larger vision that will be the greatest thing for the future generations of the world where a clear
message that success is the sweetest thing in your life Success is not a miserable thing This message has to go
If this message has to go economic leaders need to do something about
themselves They’re doing a lot about many things They need to do something about themselves When I say doing
something about yourself why is it important Do you see me
Are you are we in talking terms or is the r is Are we in talking terms Do you see me
Yes Use your hands and point out where I am Ah you got me wrong You know I am a
mystic from India
Now this light is falling upon me reflecting inverted image going through
your lenses Inverted image in the retina Now don’t you know the whole story Where do you see me right now
Within yourself isn’t it Where do you hear me right now Within yourself Where
have you seen the whole world Within yourself Everything that you have ever known and
experienced is only happening within you Right now if somebody next to you touches you you think you’re feeling
their hand but that is not the reality The reality is you’re experiencing the sensations within your own hand You
cannot feel the other hand You are completely incapable of experiencing
anything of the outside The way it is projected within you that is the only
way you will experience it That is why what is light for you is darkness for some other creature Suppose you and an
owl sit together You have owls in Switzerland If you and an owl sit
together and start an argument as to which is light and darkness where will you go
Endless argument isn’t it Who is right You are the owl
You are the owl Who is right as to which is light and which is darkness
Huh Both If you see both either you’re in the diplomatic core
or you have a successful marriage These are two areas where you should
learn to say both both Now I’m asking you which is light What
you see is light or what the house sees is light Which is the real light You
don’t know The thing is your sense organs have opened up as it is necessary
for your survival It is opened up as it is necessary for his survival You really
don’t know what is what You only know the world the way it is projected within
you So working upon the inward nature of who you are is the most essential thing
If you are in any position of responsibility and power it’s extremely
important you do something about this Otherwise it will give you completely wrong images which look right I want you
to look back on the history of this world How many horrible things human beings have done to each other believing
they were doing the right thing Yes or no No At that time when they did those
horrible things they really believed they were doing the right thing They did not think they were doing the wrong
thing This happens because we have done nothing about the interiority When I say interiority
what did you have for breakfast What do you have for breakfast
Egg Chicken So he had an egg for breakfast But over
the morning this egg has transformed itself into a human being Isn’t it It
goes into you and it’s becoming human body Isn’t it so Yes If you eat a piece of bread you eat
a banana what you call your body is just accumulation of the food that you’ve eaten Isn’t it So
now what a phenomena he is He can make a chicken egg into human being over the
morning If you ask Charles Darwin this would take millions of years
He can do it over the morning and every one of you can do it over the morning So here there is an intelligence here There
is a competence here which is capable of transforming a piece of bread or a egg
or a banana whatever into a human body When I say human body I’m not talking
about you me like this This is the most sophisticated machine on the planet Yes or no This the highest
level of technology isn’t it So human body every other gadget that you see on the planet has come out of this This is
the gadget This the gadget Yes You you’re you’re too involved in the iPhone
You never looked at the eye
this super gadget with what kind of raw material are you manufacturing With a
chicken egg with a banana with a piece of bread So there is an intelligence
here there is a competence here which is of that level
If only if you found access to this intelligence even if a drop of this intelligence entered your daily life you
would live magically People around you will think you’re superhuman
There is no such thing as superhuman People talk about being superhuman simply because they have not realized
that being human is supra Being human is super because see he can
make a egg into a human being Chicken egg Is it not super Is it super human or
super It’s just super Isn’t it that you can make a chicken egg into your human
being over the morning if your digestion is good in 3 hours otherwise 4 hours
If you have a weak stomach 4 hours otherwise 3 hours fantastic isn’t it
Does this intelligence exist in everybody We have mistaken that intelligence means thought Now the
intelligence in the body is so phenomenal that which is the very source
of making this body happen is right now functioning within you and there is a way to find access to this This is what
we are offering as inner engineering process and this inner dimension is
needed the moment you are taking a position of leadership in the world in
whatever capacity It is your fundamental business to see that first this one is
fixed because once you’re a leader every
thought that you generate every emotion that you generate every action that you perform is going to impact millions of
people once you have such a privilege in the world I think leaders have this
business that they have to do something about themselves that
the way they think the way they emote the way they act is not destroying the world in so many different ways Maybe
good intentions good intentions alone will not produce results It is the right
kind of action with the right kind of consciousness that produces the necessary results We are going with
ambition right now We think that’s our only driving force There’s a there’s a
beautiful story in Indian law A monkey goes into a house and it finds
a jar full of nuts So it puts its hand inside It’s a very narrow necked bottle
or a jar Puts inside handful of nuts Want to take it out It won’t come It’s
stuck It has to let go some But it’s ambitious It cannot let go even one nut pulls and
pulls it doesn’t come Then another wise monkey comes Some monkeys are wise you know
Another wise monkey comes and says this is not the way you live it And together
they overturn the jar and all the nuts are out Now we have to move from more to all If
you journey from more to all that means you have traveled from ambition to
vision If you have questions any kind of questions [Applause]
any of course
my English is not so good but as I heard you if I understood you uh good you the
the change the change can only happens by individual action There is no social
movement a political movement with collective action You have um your your your thought is only um thought of
individual one or or not
So I want you to look at this properly There is no such thing as society There is you me and that person and that
person and that person Together we give it a name called society But there is no
such thing in existence It’s only in our perception isn’t it In reality there’s
you and me You and me and you and me and you and me So many You think there is a society There is no such thing
Everybody’s individuals If 10 individuals behave properly you think “Oh this society is wonderful.” No
society is not wonderful There are 10 individuals who are doing wonderful things If a million one individuals do
really wonderful things then you say this is a fabulous society There is society is not functioning wonderfully
Individual people are doing wonderful things That is why society gets the
benefit Isn’t it But actually there is no society It is just a weird It doesn’t
exist It’s individuals If you want to transform a society you have to transform the individuals How else
you can make one mass teaching Even if you make a mass teaching still to what
extent each individual takes it that is the extent you find the result isn’t it
Now as a humanity when there is no society is there a humanity
there isn’t there are only human beings but as human beings on this planet we
are entrusted with a certain responsibility right now as a generation of people why I’m saying this is for the
first time for the very first time in the history of humanity we have come to
a place where we have the necessary capability
resource and technology to address every human problem on the planet Nourishment
health education whatever whatever name it for everything we have resource we
have capability and technology The only thing that is missing is individual
human beings who will stand up and make it happen Yes or no Never before this
was possible 25 years ago even if you dreamt of it we were not capable but now
we are capable If you are not capable of doing something that is fine If we are
capable of doing something and if we do not do it if we do not do what we cannot do there is no issue But if we do not do
what we can do we are a disastrous generation Isn’t it
It’s my wish and my blessing that we should not become a disastrous generation We we should be able to turn
it around because everything else is on the plate Only the man is missing isn’t it
Do you see Everything else is on the plate Only the man is missing Earlier it was not like that There was no resource
There was no technology There was no capability Now everything is there Only you and me
you are um you are speaking uh you’re speaking to to an adult audience today
and asking adults to change is obviously more difficult to uh address the problem on an earlier stage How would you how
would you recommend to to have the children changing at at an earlier stage
and having them doing something else than playing with uh with the iPhone
[Laughter] In your perception
do you believe a child is more supposed to be more sensible and intelligent or
an adult is supposed to be more sensible and intelligent What do you think
A child That’s a dangerous perception
The reason why everywhere in the world the laws are made like this Even if a child commits murder we will not punish
him as we punish an adult is because there is a margin because he’s still growing He doesn’t his faculties are not
fully there He’s not fully responsible for his actions Isn’t it Yes or no
That’s the reason why everything in the world is structured like that So
to put it in the right perspective we definitely expecting adults to behave more sensibly and more intelligently
than the child Child is given a huge margin because he’s not there He is
human He is humanity in the making You’re a human being So if you think
it’s an adult’s prerogative to be rigid unflexible This is how I am I thought
this is only an Indian problem In India there are many people you tell
them something you say I’m like this only Now you are saying we are like this only
No no no no you are not like this only It is just that to dissolve your
rigidity You have not found a solvent I will give you a solvent We can
dissolve your rigidity right now Your rigidity has come to your body because
of a certain lifestyle and because of certain attitudes to your mind nothing else Your body and mind let’s look at it
this way This is too little a time to look at these aspects but I want you to think about it
Your body your physical body over a period of time you gathered isn’t it So
it’s an accumulation eggs bread bananas this this this
body you accumulated or no Why are we not on talking terms I came
all the way to speak to you Is body an accumulation
Yes What you call as your mind is an accumulation of impressions
Yes What you accumulate can be yours I will
not dispute that for now But cannot be you Isn’t it
I am speaking now using this microphone Suddenly I say this is my microphone
You will think oh Sguru’s got some problem
After some time I say this is me Then you’ll say “Let’s go
Let’s attend Martha’s class.” I’m sorry
If I claim this microphone is me just because I’m using it would you think I’m insane or not
Yes Right now you’re doing this every day Food appears on your plate You say “This
is my food.” You eat it and then you say “This is me You need to look at this I’m trying to do this shortcut It’s not a
good way to do it But I want you to think about it What is not you If you think it is you
what is not you If you think it is you even the medical explanation for insanity is that
Yes or no The medical definition of insanity is if I think I’m the microphone the psychiatrist will say you
need treatment Yes or no What you gather can be yours can never
ever be you Isn’t it So there is something that gathers all
this that is an intelligence which can make a into a human being Should you not
access it Should you not make that dimension of intelligence possible I am not asking you to change
I am not asking you to change Change is just a little improvement of the past I am not asking you to change I am telling
you as a human being you are come with a potential which is enormous When I say
enormous about 2 years ago the cell phone companies in India did a survey
India is one of the big not one of the biggest growing cell phone industry
growing right now 60 million phones we’re adding per year So the companies
uh made a survey and they found 97% of the people are using only 7% of a cell
phone’s capability This is we’re not talking about your smartphones The dumb phone
of the dumb phone 97% of the people are using only 7% of its competence
So they must be contemplating even if we remove
90% of the software most people will not know 3% complaints we can handle it
business you know now if a simple gadget like a cell phone
if we are using only 7% of its competence what do you think is the
percentage of this super gadget we are losing right now
I don’t want to talk percentages It’s too low to talk about
you You you’re comparing the the body and the mind and in fact for the body whatever you eat the body will select
which is good for you and will evacuate which is not
useful How does the mind evacuate
The mind is also doing this but its decision making may not be as good as
the body’s because a part of it has been handed over to you If the mind was not in your
hands suppose the digestive process is not in your hands You eat put something the stomach itself will decide what to
take what to throw out But now in the mind you choose So that’s why it’s a
mess up What should go out is not there But even
now there is a certain selection in the mind See everything that your five sense
organs come in touch with in wakefulness and sleep is recorded in your mind
Suppose you walk from here to there Actually there may be 25 different types
of smells Everything is recorded You won’t feel it consciously You will not know it Only if somebody smells really
bad or really good you will know Otherwise if you just walk like this there are 300 smells floating around in
this hall every one of them is recorded in your mind to what extent means
suppose you’re fast asleep let’s say you’re fast asleep I come into your room and speak in an Indian language of which
you have no clue but you’re fast asleep you didn’t even hear but 20 years later
let’s say I spoke 20 sentences 20 years later we can hypnotize you and make you
speak those 20 sentences in a language that you do not know Experiments like this have been done So everything is
being recorded whether wakefulness or asleep but still all of it is not in
your memory conscious memory all of it is not finding expression in your life but all of it is influencing you one way
or the other So I want you to know even with food what your body absorbs also
has impact on the food What your body rejects also has impact on your food on
your system What what your body rejects don’t think it has no impact It has
impact on your system
So we hear in the video that you orisha foundation has four million two millions
of volunteers My question is how do you manage to to attract them If anybody has
to go crazy it’s me because doing all this activity running
various institutions do you know creating huge events on a daily basis all over and making this happen with
volunteers means I want you to understand what it means to work with volunteers Nobody is trained for the job
That’s the first thing You try to do something like this here you will know what it is And the next
thing is you can’t fire them They’re volunteers
If the ability to fire people is taken away from you you manage people and see you cannot fire anybody for incompetence
So what happens is in a corporation what you can do with one word I do the
same thing with 100 words because I have to win over this person otherwise she
won’t do what she has to do But the efficiency with which we function you
come and see We are super efficient in everything Far more efficient than most
corporations That’s why they’re coming to us for training I was conducting a a a program a three-day event for the top
30 executives of Microsoft India and I had about eight volunteers They
were running around doing everything After two days these executives their
mouth watered you know they’re always looking for attrition elsewhere They said sguru where do you
find these people I said you don’t find them You have to make them How do you make them I said
you have to make them fall in love with you How do you do that
I said first you have to fall in love with them They said oh they don’t pay us for that
So that’s how it is when people are passionately involved Everything is a
mess But with with simple adjustment you can do wonderful things because human
beings are functioning at 100% Nobody’s trying to hold back anything Everybody is trying to do their best
many times their best is quite burdensome [Laughter]
but that’s a whole thing so managing a situation like this anybody
can go crazy but I will not go crazy because that one thing I fixed what we
have fixed is just this see for example human experience goes through various things
every human experience for example let’s say peace suppose you lost your peace Today what
happens You go home and uh people at home the family gets the first dose
Usually if it continues tomorrow you may pick a quarrel on the
street If it continues you go and yell at your boss The moment you yell at your
boss everybody knows that you need medical treatment When you yelled at the family they
thought it’s normal If you start yelling in a situation where it’ll have serious consequences
for you people know you need treatment So you go to a doctor initially the
doctor tries to talk you out and it doesn’t work Then he throws a pill into you Pill means what Little bit of
chemicals Little bit of chemicals Suddenly you become peaceful Maybe not forever at least for a short period of
time Or in other words what you call as peace is a certain kind of chemistry
What you call as joy is another kind of chemistry Blissfulness is another kind of chemistry Ecstasy is one kind of
chemistry Agony is another kind of chemistry Turmoil is another kind of chemistry Anxiety and fear are other
kinds of chemistries Whole human experience a range of human experiences are different chemical bases within you
Now we talking about the technology of creating the right kind of chemistry You
are in a chemistry of blissfulness Doesn’t matter what the situations are you are at your best Right now people’s
logic is this If the situation is going wrong I will also go wrong This is a
silly way to exist Especially if situations are going wrong it’s all the more important that you are on the track
Isn’t it Once you establish your way of being and it cannot be disturbed what’s around you
one thing that has happened to you is you are free of suffering Once the fear
of suffering is gone in your life only then you will walk full stride in your
life Otherwise every step that you take is a half a step What will happen to me
if this doesn’t work What will happen to me Just to give you an example in 1998
certain experts from United Nations came to South India and they made a prediction by 2025 Tamil Nadu the state
where we are 60% of the state will become a desert
I didn’t like predictions I don’t like any kind of predictions because predictions about individual human
beings or societies are being made without taking into account what is beating in a human heart only statistics
Looking at today’s numbers you’re saying tomorrow’s numbers will be like this I said I don’t like this And I drove
around I wanted to see for myself if it’s true I drove across Tamaradu just to see if it’s real Then I saw that what
they said was wrong because it’s going to happen much quicker than 2025
Then I came back and said what to do Then I saw in Tamil Nadu there was only 16% green cover The national aspiration
is 33% Then I made a simple barefoot calculation for the area that we have If
you plant 114 million trees in 6 to 8 years time in 15 to 20 years we’ll have
33% green cover So I call a group of people and said we need to plant 114 million trees They saidguru do you know
what’s 114 million How can anybody plant 114 million trees
Then I said see what’s your population 62 million If all of us plant one tree
today take care of it for two years plant one more How many do you have You got the number Even a beggar in the
street can plant a one tree he’ll have an office growing for himself
He’ll have an office space growing from him himself If he grows a tree isn’t it A growing office space
So today we have you know it’s like uh almost 12 years now We have planted 16.7
million trees living trees not just saplings living trees And this year we’re planting six more million trees
And Tamil Nadu’s green cover has gone up by 7.2% It’s the only place in the whole
of Asia where the green cover is actually going up not down And we did
not give up our life to do this This is one of the side things that I’m doing In a month I may spend about 3 to four
hours on this project That’s how much time I all lot for this project with 3 4
hours in a month’s time I think it’s good enough result I thought we will
plant 114 million trees We’ve not gotten there We are near 20 million It’s still a long way to go But for 3 4 hours of
investment it’s good enough That means management must be good isn’t it Because
it is not management It’s a big love affair People are in love with you They will do
it They will not fall in love with you unless you fall in love with them That’s a secret
You have to do it first Thank you for coming It’s a a pleasure
to be here I’m in the process of setting up a new initiative called my drop in the oceans And the idea of my drop in
the oceans is to help people to describe and to define their own drop in the oceans in terms of their own impact on
the environment the positive uh the the the the services that we benefit from
from the environment I just wonder those drops can be a multitude of actions or
you could describe them as one accumulation of actions I just wonder how you would describe your own drop in
the oceans See the action has to be focused If it’s multitude of actions it will not go
anywhere One of the most important things that’s needed is any number of individual human
beings are doing wonderful things But the problem is they can’t scale it up
simply because they do it their own way Now we got to do it the way it works Not
our own way not my way not your way We just have to learn to do everything the
way it works not my way or your way There is no my way and your way There is
a way of the world We have to do it that way There is a way of this planet We have to do it that way Only then we will
be a sustained success Otherwise my way and your way is ambition which is
destroying the world Vision means we do it the way it works If we do it the way
it works we’ll all do it the same way Then there’s no problem If you do it my way and your way then
there is a problem isn’t it Thank you very much Thank you very much for being here
[Music] When we say leadership
most of the time any kind of leadership training is spent on
learning to manage situations people money property
Yes all this is important But uh
how could you Essentially a leader means uh you must be able to manage a few
thousand people or in other words
you’re trying to manage a few thousand minds
But if you’re incapable of managing this one this mind how will you manage that
mind Just by chance When you’re managing situations by
chance you’ll be always freaked Anxiety
and leadership has become synonymous today because you’re managing people by
chance If you cannot manage this one managing
that one is definitely by chance
So one of the most significant aspects of leadership has been generally ignored or people have acquired this out of
their own natural capabilities When you do things accidentally
being anxious is very natural And today we have enough medical
evidence to prove that if you’re not in a very pleasant state of mind
then your body and your mind will never function at its optimal level There is
substantial medical evidence towards this Only when you’re very peaceful and blissful your body and your mind works
at its best And your success in this world is just this To what extent can you harness the
capabilities of this physical body and this mind That’s all success is It
doesn’t matter what is the nature of your activity That’s all it is Is it so
And the most fundamental and the basic requirement to make your body and mind
work properly sensibly in the highest possible way is that if you sit here you
must be in a state of pleasantness within you
If I ask you the simple question how many of you in this many years of living
have had a 24-hour stretch that is one single full day where
you did not have a single moment of irritation agitation anger anxiety
stress nothing You just pass through it blissfully How many very few people can say yes to
this not just here in the whole world unfortunately
in all these years of living not even a single day happened the way you want it
not outside within yourself If your body and your mind took
instructions from you how would you keep it pleasant or unpleasant Let me know
your choices How would you keep it
for yourself I’m saying I’m not talking about your neighbor You may have other intentions for him
but for this one pleasantness isn’t it So yes sir
So if 24 hours did not pass in utter pleasantness obviously your body and
your mind are not taking instructions from you Any instrument is truly useful
to you only if it takes instructions from you Isn’t it
Right now I’m using this microphone this public address It’s very useful to me because it’s amplifying whatever I say
Suppose it starts saying its own things I better not be here isn’t it Yes
Your mind and your body should do what you want it to do And if it is doing
what you want it to do I’m 100% sure you will keep yourself in utmost
blissfulness Can I trust you on this
Can I trust you on this one thing That if your mind was taking instructions from you you would keep yourself
blissful every moment of your life If that’s not happening obviously it’s
not taking instructions And there is enough scientific evidence to prove today that only when you’re
blissful your mind and body does their best
I would say most human beings are functioning at 15 to 20% of their
natural capabilities If only if they could sit here in a
sustained levels of pleasantness you would see within a for one week If you
simply sit here simply blissful in one week you would be 100 or 200%
more intelligent and sharp than the way you are right now I’ll assure you this I
can prove this to you if you give me that one week
one week you just stay simply pleasant and wonderful I think these days you’re
trying to do that by taking a vacation isn’t it Yes Have you noticed you went
out and you had a good time and you were pleasant and you came back you seem to function so much better
But if vacation is the only pleasant time in our life obviously we’re not going to be very productive
isn’t it If we do not know how to wake make our work hours very pleasant
we obviously not going to be very pleasant or very productive in our lives
So as there is a science and technology to create external well-being there is a
whole science and technology to create inner well-being As we have paid so much attention to learn our way through the
world we need to spend a little bit of time to find a way through this one
The better you know this mechanism the better you can use it That’s for sure isn’t it That’s true with anything
whether you’re using a computer or a cell phone or a car the more you know about it the better
you can use it Isn’t it So so definitely that’s true with this one too
The more you know about this the better you can use it But how much time have we
spent with this When I said this I’m not talking about
you going and reading a book on psychology or on your physiology No
what you call as my body and what you call as my mind both these
things you acquired over a period of time When you were born you came with such a
small body isn’t it Slowly you accumulate it This
what you accumulate can be yours Can never be you
Yes I’m not disputing whether it’s yours or
not for now But what you accumulate can be yours Can
it be you Whatever you accumulate can be yours but can never become you Isn’t it
If you start thinking yourself to be something other than what you really are
there are bad medical terms for this I will not go into that
Two cows were grazing upon an English meadow They
were English cows And one of the cows said “What is your
opinion on the mad cow disease?”
The other said “I don’t care a hoot
as anywhere I’m just a helicopter.”
Okay If you think yourself to be something
other than what you are there are bad words for that I won’t use such things upon you
But it’s very very very important especially people who are in positions
of power positions of responsibility that every action every thought every
emotion that you generate has impact on many lives around you When you are in such a position it’s extremely extremely
important that this one is in a state of utter pleasantness and well-being Isn’t it So
if your life is just your own nonsense it’s up to you Once you say I’m a leader
in some place everything that you do the way you think the way you feel the way you act has impact on a few thousand
lives When that is so it becomes of paramount importance that you take care of this
one in a completely different way Not just being physically healthy much much more than that
Right now unfortunately most people’s well-being is so fragile
just about anybody can hijack it You went out today and somebody told you
you are the most wonderful person in the world and you were floating on cloud
What number Nine Nine You do only nine In South India we do 11 You know
you were floating on whatever number cloud and you came home and people at
home told you who you really are It’s a very fragile well-being isn’t it
So just anybody can hijack it Just anybody
It doesn’t take some earth shaking event to hijack your well-being Please see
anything can stress you Anything can make you anxious Anything can make you
disturbed Anything can make you lose your sense of joy and peace
Now in this state your ability to use your ability to
manifest the capability of who you are is
not at a very high level Unfortunately today most people when they use the word
human they’re always using the word human as a bundle of limitations
If someone says “Oh I’m only human.” He’s not referring to the possibilities
of being human He’s not referring to the immensity of being human He’s only
referring to the limitations of being human Isn’t it So yes
When someone says “I’m only human,” he’s only talking about his limitations
These limitations have become significant mainly because of the kind of identities
that one takes on and above all because even this one is not happening
the way you want him to be See in your life nobody happens 100% the way you
want them Isn’t it So has anybody happened in your life your
parents your friends your spouse your children None of them happen 100%
the way you want them These days not even your dog He does his own thing
Has anybody happen 100% the way you want them Or are you such a hopeless romantic
You’re still hoping that somebody will happen 100% the way you want them Nobody
will happen They’ll happen to some extent If they happen 51% the way you
want them you are doing great Yes Yes or no If people are happening
people around you in your life are happening 51% the way you want them to be that means you’re doing great Your
stake is good So nobody happens the way you want them
to be It doesn’t matter That’s not the real problem The problem is this one is
not happening the way you want him to be Nobody happens It’s okay This one person
must happen the way you want him to be Isn’t it So yes If this one doesn’t
happen it’s a lost case If this one did happen the way you want
him I am sure you will keep him in the highest level of pleasantness and well-being And that is a sure way of
ensuring that who you are finds full expression in your life Then when you
say I’m human you will refer to refer to the immensity of being human not to the
limitations of being human The question is how can we translate
Gita the philosophy of Krishna into augmenting business in India
I am I have not read the Gita So I really have not
I’m sorry because uh
for me uh my own vision has never failed me So I
always kept away from all scriptures because I didn’t want to clutter myself with something or the other
The only thing that I learned and I continue to do is
if I look at something if I look at a person I know their past present and
future That is the level of attention I’m paying to them I don’t look at like
this When I look I look at it completely with all that I have
If you pay enough attention there is nothing that will not yield So I never had any reason or need to go
looking for scriptures or something with all with all uh respect and regard for
them It is not that I’m averse to it It’s just that I’ve not had the time
How this whole process started is when I was very young I realized that I
just don’t know anything See if you realize that you do not know
if it’s a full scale realization that you do not know anything
paying attention will be natural
because you know everything Ah you know this guy you know this this this this this There are assumptions and
assumptions and assumptions Well I have used it in a different way
But even if you’re doing business even it’s for business purposes
the only reason why one human being seems to be
all the opportunity seems to be going in his direction and not other people is simply because he’s able to see and
other people are not able to see It’s not that it’s not there for others One is able to see and others are not able
to see So essentially a leader means that you’re able to see something that others
are not able to see So attention without intention
simply being attentive that’s what we were trying to do in the afternoon not paying attention to something just
practicing attention a very heightened level of attention where
an unfocused attention but when you focus it on something just about anything has to yield there is no other
way to that attention So I always focused on enhancing and
sharpening my attention Never under attention because what you gather is not you
Essentially you know that you exist only because you have some sense of attention
right now Isn’t it Suppose you fall asleep and you lose your attention You do not even know that you exist
So the basis of your existence itself is attention and this attention need not be martyr to
anything You just have to sharpen the tension See if you have a knife in your
hands There is no such thing that you have to cut only apples with this If you have a
sharp enough knife you could cut anything that you want But the important thing is the knife is sharp enough
so that your attention is keen enough not for something or the other If your attention has become very keen if you
wish to do a certain type of activity you can successfully do it I think I must say something about my own
enterprises at one time My enterprise started when I was 8 years of age
because of a strange kind of pride in me I wouldn’t I never ever took a single
rupee as a pocket money from my parents I started making money when I was six
seven years of age By eight I was quite an accomplished entrepreneur Simple things
Even today I’m known in my saw because I caught snakes in everybody’s houses If I caught a snake they gave me 25 rupees in
1960s 25 rupees is a million dollars for a 7-year-old 8-year-old kid
I was just on top of the world So there is a food research institute CFTRI
Every Saturday afternoon I went there I caught four or five snakes They measured it You I have to show it to like this If
it’s over 3 ft I get 50 rupees Less than 3 ft I get 25 rupees On an afternoon I
would make 150 rupees I I I don’t know if you can imagine 150
rupees for a 8 10 year old kid in 1960s or ‘7s was like a million
dollars today It was big and it went to so many things Just about
anything that came my way I should tell you a little enterprise
that I did which grow into grew into a big business after my university where I learned
nothing but I passed
The only thing was by then I had criss-crossed India on my motorcycle and I suddenly realized when I went to the
borders of India they asked me for something other than my driving license I did not even know that there was a
passport See it’s not like today Today every child maybe three year old four year old kid knows he has to have a
passport I’m in my 20ies but I do not know that I need a passport
I went to the border and then they said where is your passport I said what I have a driving license They said no you
need a passport Then I turned back from Nepal border and came back on my motorcycle So my only dream was I’m
going to just ride across the world So I wanted to do something I started kind of farming
commercial farming I was making money I thought I will do for 2 years and leave
But in the meantime my entrepreneurship took off in so many different ways Like
this I went about and then there was some there was an industry coming up
close by They wanted to build a water treatment plant I happened to know the person who was
running the industry I just went there and I wanted to meet him I was sitting in his office They were discussing
something about a water treatment plant I just heard this and they were looking at the drawings and stuff Then I asked
him can I apply Can I do this Because it is close to my farm Can I do this He said no no this is very complex There
are some experts from Mumbai and Bangalore who will come and do it You cannot do it I said give me a chance Let
me see I took the file from him I went and read through everything
Then I went back to him after 3 days and said I can do this He said don’t you do this you’re my friend I don’t want to do
this no just let me give a you know the tender
so I you know those days there’s something called as navakarnataka bookstos they were selling only the
Russian books you used to get big literature books you can get lab stalls
toys war and peace for 2 rupees and engineering books for 1 rupee 2 rupees
all hardborn books I bought 10 books talks about water treatment plant sat down in my farm and poured through this
day and night I made my own new design I went there and I gave a tender for 1.76
lakhs Mind you this is 70s And the closest tender was 32 lakhs The
highest tender was over 60 lakhs He looked at this and said “You are funny
You’re not going to do this.” I said “No I can do it.” He said “No way you can do it Look at
this The nearest tender is 32 lakhs and you’re saying 1.76 lakhs How will you do it?” I said “Give me one more day.” I
went back again and poured through the books I said “I’ll do it.” Then he said “It’s
90 days You must finish this and it must work If it doesn’t work at your own cost
you must remove it clean the site and go And I will not give you a rupee of advance
I again went and poured through the books I said I can do it I completed
this in a little over 70 days I did this in 90 plus,000 rupees In one shot I made
80,000 rupees Just like that People thought this is a hit There my
construction industry started Raja Ramana was coming for RMP plant
He’s just coming in a helicopter to see where the site is There is no anybody
there I just went and met this engineer He said he was breaking his head I don’t know what to do I have to mark the site I said I’ve got pegs and white cloth
I will just go and mark the site for you I marked it They paid me 38,000 rupees
for a 15-minute job I went on my motorcycle and just fixed it myself
Like this My enterprise started and we grew into a major construction company We were going very big but then I got
enlightened so I gave up
Thank you Thank you Sguru for sharing that story Thank you professor Um we kind of absolutely run out of time
otherwise we could have continued for another half an hour at least Thank you for being an attentive audience
Sguru I believe that talent
is something which is grossly exaggerated in success
It’s when I was in medical school I used to teach martial art
Uh that was my passion And u every time a Bruce Lee movie was
released all these school kids would come and join in hordes to martial arts
schools We used to call us Bruce Lee after two weeks Yes
And I used to see some kids whose physique is meant for martial art who
have the natural flare And I used to think oh this kid is going to get a
black belt And interestingly Swami G after 6 month
they never there The guys who go up to the black belt and
you know do something very good in martial art the ones who joined the
school without any skills without any talent who worked very very hard for everything
they had to sweat it out but in the end they are the ones who succeed How do you
explain this phenomena
See uh for a variety of reasons let me not go beyond this For variety of reasons a
certain individual could be born with a certain flare physical flare mental flare emotional
flare style You know 5-year-old child one has style other is clumsy Okay
So the one with the style is not going to become necessarily a fashion thing
Somebody else who seems to be clumsy may grow into something else like uh
you don’t know when a woman is pregnant the child within that whether it’s a
sage or a sorcerer Not the woman Now now the mother does not know whether she’s
producing a sage or a sorcerer or what this is because I use the word coherence
because of modern science is using that word
Who you are here right now as you sit here this is physics Every subatomic particle
is in constant contact with everything What you call as cosmos is living life
and it’s a live mind You have captured only one small part of it If you work with only that one smart
small part of what you have captured both as life and as intelligence
you will function at a certain level If you apply yourself to break the
barriers of your limitations that you have set for yourself then there is an
intelligence beyond anybody’s understanding beyond anybody’s estimate
which is available to you Once this is available to you
people think you’re superhuman No this is not about being superhuman
This is about realizing that being human is super The immensity
of being human has not been realized So we are always making a kind of a
mathematical calculation Okay if this person has this much IQ maybe this is
what he will become This is what Newton’s law that everything that moves on this planet works to a mathematical
precision or a geometric precision That is if you take a pendulum the length of the pendulum will decide how it will
swing If you take a projectile depending upon its mass velocity and uh the the
trajectory it will go to a certain place That is not how the cosmos is working
because what you think is physical and not physical is all mixed up within this
within this human being the physical self the psychological self the
emotional self and who you call as myself the life within you the fundamental life process These are all
different dimensions And the innermost core of who you are which
because all the other words are corrupted I’ll use the word life or just you what you call as me This if you
allow it if you do not identify it with any form with your physical form or with other different identities what you take
on it has a a way of being cohesive or collaborative with everything around
When we say somebody worked hard all he’s trying to do is stretch his boundary of identity isn’t it He’s
trying to stretch his boundary If he succeeds to set stretch his boundary something that was he never thought
possible or imagined that is within his competence or capability becomes his
miraculously I can show you hundreds of people who come to me we prepare them for a certain period and then we
initiate them in 24 hours you will see the shape of their face will change genetics are altered in 24 hours time
you can see the photographic images they have actually changed dramatically overnight simply because of a certain
extension of their identity So in the Indian spiritual values when you say
spiritual we must understand this This is not about looking up or looking down When we say spiritual we talking about
transcending the limitations of physical So right now the physical is here as if
it’s a solid entity in people’s experience But modern physics is telling
you and medical science is beginning to telling tell you or if people don’t understand if they just hold their nose
for 2 minutes they understand that they are not an independent existence It is in transaction not just in terms of
breath even in the level of subatomic particles it’s in constant transaction
If this transaction becomes even minutely conscious suddenly you have immense capabilities
that you never thought were possible Biological identity is the most limiting identity that you have because it limits
to the area of your body Now when you strive you break this It doesn’t matter
in what way you strive Most people strive in unconscious unscientific
simply out of striving they do things But there are ways to strive scientifically in a proper way There are
tools to strive with specific direction to break the limitations of who we are
If you break this boundary the subatomic particles are transacting The intelligence is transacting Only you’re
missing the whole game If you don’t miss the game if you are in the game of life
not in the game of thoughts and emotions you are in the game of life Suddenly just about anything you want you can do
Not this or that I’m saying anything can a human being can do simply if he breaks
his barriers And these barriers are many levels But the most fundamental thing is the identity
[Music] Uh this is a particularly challenging time Uh what role uh can spirituality
play in helping us deal with these times
Uh that’s what every generation thinks that their time is particularly
challenging and testing time It’s the fancy of every generation It’s
okay Leaving that aside what role can spiritual process play
It is like this If you want to do anything well suppose
you want to drive well the more you know about your car the
better you know your car the better you can drive it Is that so
Yes Is it so Then this goes for you The
better you know this one the better you can deal with it the better you can conduct this through the process of life
Just knowing the surface of it you’re not going to do a great job If you just
want to go to your office maybe you just have to know where the steering wheel is
and where the two or three pedals are But if you want to put this on the
Formula 1 track you better know everything All the dynamics that are functioning in the driving of a car
isn’t it So if you want to be on the fast track you need to know much more about it If you somehow want to survive
and go you don’t have to need know much about it I believe when you call
yourself an entrepreneur you’re planning to be on the fast track If you want to be on the fast track there should be
nothing about this that you do not know You must know how to conduct this You must know how this will function at its
optimum level When I say optimum
see right now if I close my eyes and stand here if somebody walks into this hall I will tell you what kind of person
has walked into this hall You could do well with this in your
office isn’t it Yes or no Yes In your business somebody
walked into your place If you just look at him you know what has walked into your office Would it be a big thing
Oh what should I do What great yoga should I do No This is not the quality of a yogi Even your dog knows this
Yes or no Your dog is sitting under the sofa Somebody came at the front door
He’s know he knows who has come Yes or no Why is it that you’re missing out I’m
asking you’re missing out because you have messed up your mind in such a way
If you just learn to handle this properly you will see human perception is such that you don’t have to struggle
with every little thing The stress and nonsense that you’re going through in life is simply because this has not been
sufficiently explored So spiritual process does not mean looking up or
looking down It means looking inward because the more you know about it the
more efficiently and more successfully you can conduct this It doesn’t matter
what what qualifications you have It doesn’t matter what accumulated
information you have in your head Essentially your success is determined by how this one is right now Yes or no
Yes And how to keep this one in the highest possible level of alertness and balance
exuberance and equinimity If you do not know this you will be only successful by
chance And even if you are successful anyway you will suffer it You will not enjoy it
[Music]
Just working hard doesn’t do things in the world This is the biggest problem Right from
your childhood your parents taught you If you study how
must you how should you study Study hard If you work how should you work Work
hard You do everything hard
If you do things hard things won’t happen
It’ll become a donkey’s life Just doing everything hard Nobody told you you must
study in joy Nobody told you you must work in love They told you you must do
it hard They made their lives very difficult for themselves
Now they were in they’re ensuring that your life becomes difficult too
Why do you work hard What what are you working hard If it’s
hard give it up If you can do it joyfully you do it
Otherwise don’t do it Isn’t Isn’t it so If you’re going to make yourself
miserable in the process of working what use is your work to yourself or to
anybody around you You just sit at the temple gates and beg and eat It’s better
Somebody will throw you one rupee two rupee you eat out of it At least that you do joyfully Sit there happily eat
what people throw into your bowl If you’re going to make it so hard for yourself I’m sure you’re making it very
hard for everybody around you Isn’t it If you’re going to spread misery in the
world it’s better you don’t do anything If you’re going to spread joy in the world go and do as much as you can
Now you work hard Just because you work hard things need not happen And they do
not happen One day it happened Can I tell you a
joke
Shankaran Pilai’s old ambassador wouldn’t start Does anybody still own
ambassador No All of you evolved out of it
His old ambassador wouldn’t start So he went home
He had a kitten at home He brought the kitten harnessed it
to the ambassador said “Go let’s go Let’s go.”
People looked at this and said “Are you crazy Can this little kitten
pull the ambassador car?” Generally it takes God to move this car
What are you doing Chrani said “Don’t you fool yourself I have a horse
whip
You believe You believe you can do everything hard and it’ll work It will not work just
because you do it hard You must do the right thing Only then it works Isn’t it
If you do not do the right thing it does not work People who are successful are successful
not because necessarily they work hard They just know what is the right thing
to do with their kind of job That’s why they’re successful
Another day Shankar and Pilai
fell into the septic tank I want you to imagine
right up till here in filth Please imagine and see
He tried to get out desperately He couldn’t Then after some time he started
screaming fire fire Neighbors heard the fire screams called
the fire brigade The firemen came and looked everywhere No fire
Then they found him in the septic tank pulled him out And then they asked “Why
were you screaming fire?” Then Shankar Pulera taught if I said would you come
You must do the right thing otherwise it doesn’t work
So just working hard will not do You must do the right thing otherwise it
doesn’t work The critics or whatever somebody is
criticizing me or somebody’s saying something gives uh I’ll become more determined to know score runs also but
I’ll get very very disturbed very quickly also So I know what I should do at that time Should I reply to them What
is the most important part of your life is what’s happening within you Isn’t it Yeah Whether misery happens within you
or joy happens within you it only comes from within you isn’t it So if joy is coming from within you why can’t you
have it coming all the time If it was coming in the Delhi tap I know it goes
dry But if it’s coming from within you why can’t you keep it flowing Because we
have not taken care of this isn’t it How you are should never be determined
by how somebody else is Once you allow that you will remain a slave to somebody
all your life because they will decide whether you will be happy or unhappy Yes
The question is not about justice and injustice That’s a different thing But
still whether there is justice or injustice the most unjust thing that you can do for yourself and everybody around
you especially other people who have such a big expectation of you is that
you make yourself unhappy because unhappy means unpleasantness Unpleasant means unpleasantness means inefficiency
of life Inefficiency of life means you will get out Yeah In your profession
Yeah True Inefficiency of life means you’ll get out in somebody else’s profession He will shoot a bad picture
of me Somebody else will do something else But in your life inefficiency means
you’re back in the pavilion So in your life it’s much more stark
compared to other people’s lives Other people can explain Yeah there other
people can explain their inefficiency You cannot explain your inefficiency We see it and that’s all Yeah
And there are so many expectations from people from family from friends that
every time I walk on the field I have to score runs and they want to see me on the field to score you know hundreds So
it’s it’s difficult to uh perform at every time but you know
the expectation is there when you when I got out So my son says you know papa why are you getting out every time Why not
scoring 100 every time So you know I can understand he’s is conscious Yeah he’s a
child He doesn’t know anything But still he’s expecting from his father that whenever he goes to the field he can
score runs at least 50 or 100 So that expectation is is uh so much uh you have
more hundreds than 50s Yes You’re one of the few who has more hundreds than 50s
Uh yes Uh when I got uh 21 centuries I got 20 50s and 21 centuries And then
later on I score more 50s than the hundreds See once you enter the field once you go
there and stand you should not be anybody’s husband
anybody’s father anybody’s son not even an Indian you must just be a batsman
you got a bat and the ball coming your business is just to hit the ball as it deserves
if you stand there as an Indian one billion people will stand on your head it’s too much heavy weight to carry If
you stand there as a father your children will sit on your shoulders Very difficult to play the game with two children sitting on your shoulders Yeah
You must leave all of them outside When you go there you’re just a batchman and that’s all your job is
You must exclude all these things But it’s very difficult for me to you know but that leave that thought behind But
that also there are methods See right now I’m constantly involved with people day
in and day out 20 hours a day I’m on and on and on with people seven days of the week Yeah But if I close my eyes the
world stops for me Finished It is the world doesn’t even exist for me If I
close my eyes you must bring at least a little bit of this essence into your
life that there is see you were born alone
No Or were you born with one billion people Yeah Born alone Alone Yeah When you die
you’ll die alone Right now within this body you live alone Yeah You may do many other things All these other things come
in in between and go in between Okay One way or the other this being this piece
of life is a complete piece of life as creator has made This doesn’t become complete by making additions to it Is
incomplete human beings who invented those things This is a complete piece of life So bringing this into your life
there are methods to do this Yeah That every day if you if you simply close your eyes and sit for a few minutes you
must be able to shut off everything Yeah If this happens in your daily life when
you go and stand there it’s just a business between you and the ball That’s all and that’s all it should be This
business does not involve your family Does not involve India It does not involve anything It just involves the
laws of physics the ball the bat and you that’s all
Really appreciate I want to ask a question that when I’m
playing uh there is a couple of negative thought comes in my mind that you know when the bowler is running and he’s taking is
ready to uh deliver the ball suddenly the thought comes hit the ball
and that if that thought comes it’s difficult to control that that thought at that time because I’m about to hit
about to play that ball so how I’ll control that thought what uh should I
tell or what should I do to control that that thought Hit the ball is not a bad
thought Yeah it’s not bad thought But but still you know I can’t hit every ball No that is true But uh looking at
your track record you’ve hit the ball pretty well So that thought is a good thought not a bad thought Yeah But it
should not become a compulsive thought And above all so this is something that all of us have to understand whether
it’s you’re playing cricket or you’re running a business or whatever you may be doing There is something called as
reality Yes There is something called as impressions of reality that we carry within ourselves Yes Suppose you never
played cricket in your life For the first time you stand there Yes If a ball comes at you you would naturally like to
look at it how it comes and then hit it Only because you played cricket for a certain number of years Yes Now you have
this thought because there is a score to fulfill and there are expectations this
time India has to win and so many things you know expectations of 1 billion
people Yeah All that stuff but actually uh you don’t play a game
I would call everything a game in life Yes Whether you’re on a playing field or you’re in a any other field it is a kind
of a game You don’t play any game Well you don’t win a game because you
want to win You don’t hit a ball because you want to hit Yeah It is only because
you do something right it all works So if you want to do something right if you
want to do anything right first thing is we’re able to grasp the situation for
what it is You’re expecting the ball at 160 km/h
Suppose he lets it out at 60 km/h It’s the easiest things to hit probably but
you may miss it simply because you’re expecting it to happen in a certain way This expectation is coming because your
memory is projecting into reality and making an unreal reality So if there is
an intelligent bowler she reads this and he will make those things And it is not
always the fastest bowler or the one who spins most who make gets the wickets It’s one who reads the batsman’s
expectations and just does the reverse of that who who manages to fox the
batsman So it doesn’t matter which aspect of life whether sport or otherwise the important thing is
we are able to grasp what is there and do the appropriate action Yeah In a sport it becomes very what to say uh
kind of focused because so many people watching and we know if you don’t hit the ball right all of us know it
Somebody’s driving if he instead of missing the pothole if he hits the pothole maybe not everybody notices
Somebody’s doing business instead of doing the right thing if he goes little off maybe not too many people notice it
But in sport if you don’t hit the ball if you don’t take the ball in the center
of the bat all of us notice it Yes Not just you Yes Not just the bowler Every one of us know that you didn’t hit it
right So because of that all this is building up I was just talking to
somebody and you know just then somebody was telling me we got to beat Pakistan this time I said don’t try to beat
Pakistan Just hit the ball Yes If you want to beat Pakistan they’ll wage a war
Okay You don’t try to beat Pakistan All you
have to do is hit the ball If you try to beat Pakistan Pakistan is not in the ball It’ll be
somewhere there Yes In trying to beat that all that will happen is you will go and sit in the pavilion That’s all that
will happen Yes In human mind there is perception there is memory
there is imagination People are not able to keep this thing separate
There is memory of the game There is imagination of how you will carry the cup and there is a reality of a ball
coming at you It is only the reality that you can handle Memory and imagination you can only fancy One is
about that which is over One is one is about that which is yet to happen The reality is the ball is coming and you
have a bat in your hand You have to hit hit it the way the ball deserves it not
the way India deserves it not the way Pakistan deserves it not the way somebody else deserves it You have to
hit the ball the way the ball deserves it the way it’s coming So to keep this clarity of mind there
are methods with which you can hold your mind in such a way that this moment if I
sit here the memory of who I am my parentage my upbringing my growing up my
things or things that I know if all these things come right now in my mind
I will not perceive what is here memory will play yes memory is not a reality
yes because it is about something that is over which does not exist That which
does not exist if it impedes into that which exists you will miss that which
exists This is so in everybody’s life but in a sports person’s life the effect of that
is immediate In other people’s lives it’ll pay out and they will see it after some time
that it doesn’t work But with your life is right there You either rather increase or you’re sitting up there and
clapping for somebody Yes it’s very clear So because of that it stands out but
this is true for everybody’s life So doing see when you are given such a sophisticated mechanism called mind
human mind is not a simple thing it’s a magnificent mechanism
even if you buy a phone a simple phone which they’re calling it smart it’s it’s not as smart as you okay
but even if you buy a phone you have to read a manual which runs into 20 pages of how to use it yes they’re not telling
you how it works they’re only telling you how to use it will take a certain amount of study If you want to know how
it works it will take much more Yes Amount of study Did you ever read the user manual for your brain No that’s a
whole thing We are not looking at how this works Simply we trying to use it by nature or
by accident People may get to use it but not consciously But is there is a method or there is there is a method technique
to there’s a very established method Okay My next question is is that only how
I’ll control that thought Don’t try to control it You need to liberate yourself from this Okay See I’m not talking about
controlling your mind I’m talking about liberating it from all kinds of
additions that it has added on Yeah If you control your body if you control
your mind what it means is you’re control means to hold it within certain limits
But you become who you are in the world only because you cross the limits
Only because you cross the limits that other people never cross you become whoever you are in the world So the
method should be not of control but of liberation Over a period of time you gather a body
and a certain level of mind These two if we know how to use it to
our advantage it’ll work one way But a whole lot of humanity uses their
body and their mind to their disadvantage Their body and mind are the biggest problems that they have in their
life To make this body and mind in such a way that you don’t have to control them What would you like to control You
would like to control something that’s gone bers You would like to control something which is destructive Why would
you like to control something that is creative something that is competent something that is capable why would you
like to control that Would you like to control your intelligence Because if if there is a certain level
of ignorance you want to control it Would you like to control your intelligence Would you like to control
your physical strength Would you like to control anything You would want to liberate it You would want to focus it
You would want to put it into proper use If this has to happen the most fundamental thing there are various
other methods If you have the necessary time more sophisticated methods can be approached Necessary time does not mean
you have to spend 12 hours a day or something If you spend 20 to 30 minutes a day you can do miraculous things for
yourself because you know how to play the game You know how to do all that All that it takes is little more clarity at
that moment and the body and mind responds with much more ease rather than
tension and fear and anxiety It responds with ease There is substantial
scientific and medical information today to clearly say only when you are at ease
your body and mind functions at its best We’ve given it to the cricket team also I don’t know if it reached you Uh this
is called as ishaka It’s a simple process The important thing is to make a
distinction between what is you and what is not you When I say what is you and what is not you whatever you associate
yourself with after some time you start experiencing it as myself because somewhere in your mind you identify with
it Starting from the most fundamental thing it goes into various things which causes
enormous amount of disturbance and misery But the most basic thing which breeds this is your own body and your
mind When we say your mind your mind is largely the thought process and emotions
that go on there This thought process and emotion mainly happens the way it happens because of the type of memory
that you have gathered there Obviously you gathered memory over a period of time Isn’t it The body the physical body
from the time when you were born and how you are today you gathered this over a period of time Anything that you can
gather can be yours but can never ever be you Isn’t it So to create a
distinction between what is you and what is not you If this distinction arises
which is what ishakria does If you bring this distinction into your life you will see suddenly your ability to use your
body and your mind is phenomenally enhanced many manyifold the same body
and same mind simply because you’re not tangled up with it You can use it so
much better simply because there is a little bit of space between you and your body and you and your mind This is
guaranteed from me Okay Thank you One question that really comes to me
very strongly is that um we you know
India and Nepal is very rich in culture and spiritual
heritage instead of taking pride Why do we always
look towards west And uh whereas I find lot of west west
is looking towards us for answers but we I feel are constantly looking
towards west your views on this guru gi I’m sure at least almost all the men 95%
of the men are in western clothes right now ladies are a little better
why is this because we Just understand there is no substitute for success
You may talk philosophies you may talk culture you may talk so many things but
there is no substitute for success Right now in many ways west has become the
symbol of success So if you’re successful even though the temperatures are 38° today you must be in jacket and
tie I’m not commenting on their clothes I’m saying success is the ideal always
without what is successful That is what everybody will aspire for So we need to
understand this Another aspect of success is today
success means economic success People are not recognizing any other
form of success anymore on the planet There used to be a time if you came into
your town and said “Oh he’s a big man Maybe he was a wise man Maybe he was a
very creative man Maybe he was something else.” But no today if you say somebody is a big man it means he’s got big money
bags So in a way we have transformed the entire world into economics That is the
most important subject everywhere So it doesn’t matter There’s no point struggling with it We have to come to
terms with it and see how to write it So we need economic success You will see as
India becomes more economically successful you will see things Indian
will become more prominent It’s not the other way around People think that if
India becomes economically successful everybody will become westernized It’s not true Unless by then we have
completely lost the ethos of what India is If we did not lose that then
definitely as economic success comes manifesting who we are becomes equally
important to take pride there are certain mechanics First of all when you you
mention the word nation nation is not just a geographical boundary It is an
idea that we must infuse into people’s minds It must burn as a pride in
people’s hearts Then only there is a nation If you just draw a pencil line on the map it doesn’t become a nation So to
build pride there is there has to be history No nation has as much history as
we have But our children as when you were studying
in school you studied nothing of to be proud of If you just look at it recently I was
talking to the education minister in Tamil Nadu For example everybody knows
about Cambodia Ankor Tam and Ankor Watt These temples are the engineering
marvels even by today’s standards Most incredible things that human beings can create Tamil kings went there and built
it from first standard to 12th standard Does any Tamil child even read one line
saying that our ancestors went there and built this No we only study how people came and
conquered us raped us looted us and this is what we study
A fourth standard child in Lebanon will know fourth fifth standard those
three years they study this every one of them know Indian labor Indian sculptors
Indian yogis and Indian elephants came to Lebanon 4,200 years ago and built the
Balbec temple which is a phenomenal structure even today
every child in Lebanon knows it to a point there are thousands of people in Lebanon who take their first name as
Hind Here we shout jah hind There’s no one Hind here But in Lebanon there are
thousands of people named Hind because they feel these people from somewhere came and built this temple and even
today there are thousands of people by that name You go to Palmra Aleppo Damascus
all these places are living history that over 8 10,000 years ago these cities were built by taxing Indian traders by
taxing them So you can imagine what is the volume of traffic that must have
been happening to build entire cities based on the tax that was collected from the Indian traders
Ask any Indian child have they read anything about it No nothing of pride So
I must tell you this I’m not saying this with pleasure But today if the western
countries open up their visa regimes I think 70% of the Indians will swim
across the oceans and go away So you’re not running a nation You’re running a open prison
Nation is when I want to be here and make things happen This is a nation I want to run away because there’s no
other way I’m staying here This is not a nation If you want to make a nation we have to build that pride Pride will not
suddenly drop upon us from the skies We have to show our children what all great
things we have done in the past Okay we have fallen here and there but now it’s once again time to bring back that glory
If we don’t create that pride if we don’t create a sense of history in people’s minds particularly growing
children and youth how will you build bring pride First opportunity they get they will leave the country Going out of
the country is not a bad thing You go there to learn You go to to do business You go there to do whatever But are you
running away from a horrible situation or are you going by choice That is a
question I’m not saying nobody should go out We have enough population to populate the entire world So we can go
out Going out is not a crime I’m saying
we’re escaping Escape happens from a prison not from a nation Isn’t it
So the the sense of escaping from the country that should go away If that has
to go away we cannot be forever talking about our past glory either Past glory
is good to build pride to create a present and a future We have to do that
Right now India as a nation is in a position of advantage only because of
the demographic dividend we have In everything else we’re way behind most nations Let’s understand this We are but
we have a demog demographic dividend that we have the maximum number of youth
But if we do not cash in on this in the next 15 to 20 years once again it’ll be
a slide down It may take another 50 years or 100 years before we get that opportunity once again So right now in
the next 10 to 15 years what we do matters for you and the future
generations of this land [Music]
My name is my question is how to pass exam without
study Oh Narendra Singh
how to pass exams without studying
My wish and my blessing
is My wish and my blessing is you should
not pass [Applause]
Because when you say how to pass an examination without studying
what you are saying is how to get a certificate without knowing
a damn thing about anything So if you become a doctor
without knowing what you should know you passed and became a doctor We don’t
know how many lives you will take without studying or without knowing what
you should know You became an engineer You build a Kolkata bridge
Before anybody crosses on that bridge it collapses on people’s heads taking lives
We don’t know what other disasters you will cause What has happened to you is just this
You have empowered your ego and enhanced your desire
Now what you need to do is this You need to empower your intelligence
and enhance your competence This is what you need to do This is what
education is about This is what life is about But unfortunately you think
education is about passing an examination Education is not about passing an
examination Education is about learning It looks like the world has forgotten
about this So those
who want to pass examinations without studying those who want to win without playing
the game those who want to be honored for things that they have not done
these people will achieve one thing They will die without living
This one thing they will achieve Because if you want to live
you must involve you must empower your intelligence and competence
in doing something to the best of your ability
There is fulfillment in this There is joy in this There is life in
this In passing an examination without
studying in winning a game without playing
in being honored without deserving there is only ego satisfaction
looking around at people who have failed and feeling little better than them
As I said for sure you will die without living
If you think passing an examination without studying is a success
dying without living is definitely a super success and you will succeed
What Narendra Singh Dhoni
or Modi Now this is champion of everything
One who wants to pass examination without studying is a champion of everything If you are a champion of
everything you are a nutcase If you’re a champion in something
there’s enormous striving in becoming a champion of something You’re a champion of everything
because you are a nutcase
And when you become a champion of everything it means you don’t know how to do
anything Yes You don’t know how to do anything
Narendra sing
It’s my wish and my blessing All those who don’t study must fail
All those who do not know how to play must lose
Yes All those who do not deserve are not honored in this world
This is my wish This is my blessing So you just came to
the wrong guy There are people who will bless you
Don’t worry Don’t study My blessing is there You will pass
I am not one of them You just came to the wrong place
What Champion of everything
If you become No that’s good If you want to be champion of everything
life will get you in so many different ways
If you fail it’s good At least you know you’re not fit enough to take the next step Yes or no
If you lose a game you know that you’re not good enough
Yes or no Yes That is the idea of failure
That is the idea of passing and failing That to know whether I am fit enough to
take the next step or not Not to fool the world
You can fool the world But the problem is you will become such an expert and you will make a fool of yourself That’s
the biggest problem So Narendra Singh
not Dhoni not Modi There’s enormous driving behind those names
Let’s leave it here Otherwise I’ll get more nasty cuz I don’t like people who pass without
studying
[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]
[Applause] I know this uh manifesting what you want
while you’re fulfilling your dreams These have taken on a big
a very uh
a dimension or a size that it should not
people setting their goals of life at the 1820 that I want to become this or
that I’m not saying it’s wrong I’m not saying it’s not necessary It is to some extent
But I see particularly in the west essentially in America this is something I would like to change Yes by
maintaining a certain mental focus you can achieve a few things
but we have to redefine what is achievement Just because you got what you wanted
that does not mean you have achieved something in your life
This is a very mediocre way of curing
human nature What few material things that you want
either in terms of profession relationships or as you said you added community
projects that is also one kind of career So right now this little
which is supposed to take three people in it carrying 10 people
somehow he’s zigzags up this hill and makes it to the top It’s an achievement
He switched off his engine probably sitting for a chai So it’s an achievement
I’m saying it is not an achievement Yes socially it is relevant personally
economic and other benefits may be there Yes few things have to be done like that I’m not questioning that But if you’re
looking at if you’re calling this a vision sorry I wouldn’t call this a vision This is a petty desire
which could have been done in so many ways These things have become big in people’s
minds because they have set their goals
Like I’ve always told you in the very uh beginning of the usually probably in the
very introduction of the inner engineering program we talk about this in yoga we say if you have
one eye set on the goal you have only one eye to find your way A oneeyed man
thinks he has done a great thing because he found his way home
Somebody who can see clearly he doesn’t think much of finding his home
because it’s the simplest thing that you can do So I’m saying without enhancing
the human being we set some petty goals like this little
engine which doesn’t have the power to go up this hill Now it sets up this goal
and it thinks it’s done a great thing reaching there But if it built itself
into a more powerful engine without effort it would be there This is
where human focus should be Human focus should not be about what should I become
what should I have Having and becoming should not be your goal
It should be about how can I enhance this life When I say life I’m not
talking about your profession your career your relationships your community
projects No I’m talking about this life How to make this
from what it is to a much upgraded or highowered life Just do that If you do
that then this will do whatever it has to do This is what yoga is about Don’t worry
about what you should have what you should do Just make this into a powerful engine It will climb any hill
So this should be your vision Not about I want to get this kind of job I want to
earn so many thousand dollars I want to marry this pretty girl in the neighborhood
No just grow this into a size and a potential
beyond what it is right now All these things will happen All these things will happen more than
you ever imagined And above all the quality of your life will not be
determined by the arrangements of your life The quality of your life will be
determined by what’s throbbing here And that’s how life should be because
it’s life not the arrangements of life And life happens within What you arrange
is of social consequence not of any existential or life consequence
So do not call petty desires as vision I want to buy a new model car and it
happened It’ll anyway happen because they’re giving you 0% interest free loan and they’ll collect it back from you in
10 years time Anybody can buy any damn car It doesn’t mean anything
But sitting in that car what are you going to do Only if your neighbors look at you and envy you you feel good If all
of them have bigger cars you anyway feel like nonsense once again That’s all it is But if this human being is enhanced
whether you sit in the city or you sit among these rocks you sit in the mountain alone by yourself wherever you
sit it’s fantastic And that’s what you should envision not petty things
[Music] We think the only way to do business is
cutting each other’s throat No we’re beginning to understand more than competition
Whole lot of competitors diehard competitors are today all cooperating with each other collaborating with each
other A collaboration a collaborative process is a far more powerful process
than a competitive process It’s a wrong idea that only when you’re pushed to the wall you’ll do your best It’s a very
wrong idea You tell me when does your body and brain work at your best Does it
work at its best when you’re joyful peaceful or does it work at your best when you push to the wall
Human potential is at its best only when there is a certain level of pleasantness within the human being And people who
are taking positions of power and responsibility have this responsibility that they must
do this To put it in a very simplistic manner see if I meet any of you when
you’re very happy I’m sure you’re wonderful people But if I happen to meet you when you’re
angry frustrated miserable about something you could be nasty isn’t it
Yes or no This is true with every human being So when you raise to when you rise
to your position of power and responsibility the first and foremost thing is just this that you have to make
yourself into an extremely pleasant being because if you become blissful and pleasant you will naturally do your best
to everything around you There is no other way for a human being Joy is an insurance That’s all I’m
saying So let me start off Sguru by asking you
that u you probably are the biggest multitasker that I have met in my life
You are into sharing wonderful things with people millions of people and you find the time
to play golf and you ride a motorcycle like a champion
I don’t know what all you do How do you manage your time That last thing was not a good thing
I don’t know what all you do No that that is a sense of amazement
and there are people who are very busy people and so we believe we are very busy people We would like to know as to
how you manage your time and what is the kind of advice you would like to give us so that life beyond work is a lot more
meaningful at least a little more meaningful than what we lead a little closer to the kind of meaningful life
that you lead From what I observe uh from people
as I travel more and more meet various kinds of people in business
academics science and regular people all over the world
What I see is uh most people in the 24 hours that we have
per day they are more preoccupied than busy
That is their own thoughts and their own emotions are such a big issue
that most of their time is spent dealing with that
They may be working but in their work
a lot of struggles are within themselves
If you are in any kind of sport or any creativity you would know that uh a little struggle
means your ball will go somewhere else your ragam talam will go somewhere else
your painting will go somewhere else nothing will happen properly or in other words what could happen very
simply unfortunately happens with lots of difficulty This is mainly because
they have been given a phenomenal gadget or a phenomenal machine which is
the human mechanism above a phenomenal dimension called the mind
They’re trying to operate this phenomenal machine or a gadget or a
computer if you would like to call it without reading the users manual
every day struggling with their own stuff and it doesn’t get solved before
they’re 20 or something till their last day on their deathbed they’re still struggling with the same things their
thoughts and their emotions If they learn to sort this out very
early in their life I’m sure they can work half the number of hours that
they’re working and be a lot more productive than the way they are right now
My effort is to bring this possibility to people’s lives that
you can live live life with ease not with struggle
One thing is when we say work it’s a many young people wonderful
people who are getting recognized for whatever wonderful things they have done
living them apart but generally work means always been people have been
thought that they must work hard Nobody told them they must work joyfully
Nobody told them their work should be an expression of their joy or their love
They have to work hard If you work hard life will be tedious How else how else
will it be You will do something hard only because you don’t know how to do it
If you know how to do it you would do it with ease So without learning how to do something if we try to do it without
investing enough time in perception if life is all expression then life becomes
a big struggle Most people are not doing anything
except earning a living maybe reproducing and dying one day
nothing more They may believe they’re doing many things but this is all they’re doing eating sleeping
reproducing dying one day That is such a big fuss
Every other creature is able to do this this from an earthworm to an insect
to anything and anything Everybody is doing this They all earn their own living They eat they sleep they
reproduce and they die With 1 millionth of our brain they’re
able to do it With this big brain human beings are struggling
not with the things that they’re doing They’re struggling with the brain itself Their own intelligence has become a
serious problem What is the biggest
boon in our life What is the greatest benefaction in our life which is our intelligence This has become a problem
because they don’t know how to hold it They don’t know how to use it constantly It works against themselves When I say
it works against you people may call all kinds of names
may use all kinds of words to describe this They may call it stress they may call it tension they may call it misery
they may call it depression they may call it anxiety they may call it madness Essentially it’s your intelligence
turned against you Your intelligence is not working for you It’s working against
you So my fundamental work is this that at least your body and your mind should
work for you Nobody else may work for you It doesn’t matter At least your body and your intelligence must work for you
If this one thing happens you living blissfully gracefully effectively is a
natural consequence If somebody feels that he’s putting in a lot of effort
and his efforts are not being recognized how does that person motivate himself or
herself to say “I don’t really give a damn as to what other people think I
have to keep on doing what I’m doing I have to excel myself every day.” What is
the message that you would like to give people who feel that sometimes u their
efforts do not get recognized to the level that they think they have put in
See these are two extremes I don’t give a damn is not going to work Especially if you’re in the retail
If you say I don’t give a damn you’re out of business At the same time thinking my efforts are
not giving the necessary result I think a whole lot of people feel this way
I’m saying in your assessment you may be doing great but the world has to recognize too
Somebody else has to see value to what you’re doing Only then it’ll find recognition If you feel it’s valuable
you’re doing it then don’t bother about other people’s recognition But if what
you’re doing is useful to them let’s understand this Not because what you’re
doing is great because what you’re doing is useful to them They will say “Oh this
is wonderful.” So I don’t give a damn definitely
doesn’t work But whether other people recognize you or not depending upon how
useful it is at a given time to people that depends what is the type of job
we’ve taken up Now I must say this
shall I see uh today wherever I go people are
saying things oh he’s a yogi he’s a mystic they don’t know a damn thing about me being a yogi or a mystic okay
they don’t know what is a yogi what is a mystic now because it’s internationally
recognized everybody’s clapping their hands I have been saying the same things for
last 35 years Nobody thought anything about it Now somewhere else in America people are
clapping their hands Here also they started clapping their hands Okay it means nothing to me All the recognition
someday if people truly recognize what is being a yogi and they’re inspired to become that that’s wonderful Of course
there are many people who are inspired by that But I’m telling you even people who are near
around me including my family if I was sitting under a tree same yogi
no recognition in the world they wouldn’t think nothing of my being a yogi you understand today because it’s
internationally recognized Everybody is saying this is he’s a great yogi They don’t know what a damn what is damn yogi
is about They don’t know damn thing about it It is just that many people see
it’s useful to them So there is recognition Let’s understand this People
are not recognizing the quality of who I am They recognizing the usefulness that
I am to them Only that part gets recognition The quality of what I am Only a handful of
people will recognize that rest will not even know what the hell it is and it’s okay
I I think that’s beautifully said and I think u if I was to translate that into
our language out here in this room Hey don’t use your language my language of the kind that I can use in front of you
Um um I I would say that keep at it as to
what you’re doing One day people will see the use of that in your in their lives and your time will come like his
time came when people started clapping So all you retail professionals don’t
worry about what the world thinks Keep on doing what you’re doing Am I right in saying that Oh that that’s a deduction
[Applause] I would say that if your if your work is
an expression of your joyfulness whether recognition or no recognition what does it matter You’re finding an
opportunity to express your joy And if you look at your own lives and see the
moments where where you’re in pursuit of your happiness what is the quality of those moments The moments when you’re
expressing your joy what is the quality of those moments If you see you will see whenever you’re expressing your
happiness or joy they are the best moments in your life If your work is an
expression of your joy your working moments will be the best moments of your life
We are fortunate that we have a display of such integrity here
in India today and uh
in the last 24 hours
the steps taken revolutionary steps taken by our prime minister
is leaving law-abiding citizens in ecstasy
But those who are conducting their business with a little bit of hanky panky
are in a panic
Not everybody who has some currency in their hands which they don’t know what to do with
the highest denominations of currency in India have been made defunct
not without warning there have been signs but you know
people don’t take those signs and this has left a lot of people in a
quandry not necessarily because they’re involved in crime or whatever
Unfortunately we have been conducting nearly 50% of transactions in the country
below the radar of taxes
There are many reasons People will always argue
because a whole lot of people had this feeling
that the taxes that we pay are not coming back to us in the form of
benefits of infrastructure services and others
because there is a history of statistics talking about
how much percentage of the money that government intends towards a certain
project actually hits the ground rest simply vanishes in the air so
because of this people have developed a certain attitude of
I don’t have to pay taxes kind of thing I think a time has come
for this nation to get its act together
Though there will be difficulties though many people will be hurt
though many people will be left holding a can that they don’t deserve to hold
But we have to go through this uh little bit of a difficult surgery
for the nation because India’s economy is going to blossom
and if this blossoming has to find be on stable footing
it’s important that everything is about the ground nothing is under the out
[Music] There is medical and scientific evidence today that if you are pleasant for 24
hours without a moment of anxiety irritation agitation if you’re just blissful for 24 hours your intellect the
sharpness of your intellect could go up 100% Really Yes Your body and mind functions
way better medically scientifically We can prove it today Your blood chemistry
will change Everything about you will change if you just remain very joyful
How do you see that Do we meditate We do yoga We what How do we get I wouldn’t
want to use the word yoga because when I see the yoga that people are doing in the west particularly in America it’s
all right Uh it’s it scares me Why Why
Because it’s a s it’s a very subtle technology It’s not an exercise Ah
people think it’s an exercise If you want to just stay fit play tennis
swim climb a mountain you will be fit You don’t have to do yoga for that See
the yogic system is a profound science of aligning the geometry of your body
with the cosmic geometry When I say aligning the geometry of your body with cosmic geometry what we need to
understand is that solar system is is working like a potter’s wheel to
generate this body The ad yogi the first yogi over 15,000 years ago said this
unless human body evolves further there are no other ways
and human body cannot evolve further unless there are some fundamental changes in the solar system or the
arrangement of the planets Today the modern neurologists are saying
something very similar is uncanny that they’re saying something very similar after 15,000 years is
the big question a lot of people are asking is can human brain evolve further So now they are saying the physical loss
not the neurological principles the physical loss will not allow human brain to evolve further because the only way
it can evolve is you can increase the size of the neuron or the number of neurons
in the brain If you increase the size of neurons the amount of power they will consume the amount of energy that they
will need will be too taxing for the body Even now as you sit here in a restful condition 20% of your energy
consumption is by the brain It’s such a small part Okay It’s
consuming 20% of your energy right now 80% is by the remaining part of the body You have seen if somebody worries a lot
they lose weight True I do that I do So a lot of people are slim maybe not by
exercise they’re just worried So so if you increase the neuronal size
the physical loss will not permit it And if you increase the number of neurons the clarity that you have will go away
So they’re saying because of the physical loss physical laws are essentially are a consequence of the way
the planet is moving in relation with the sun and the other planets for us So
unless the physical laws change which means unless some drastic changes happen in the solar system the human brain
cannot evolve further This is modern neurology This ad yogi said 15,000 years
ago that unless some basic changes happen in the solar system human body
cannot evolve These are the only ways you can do it He said you can only learn to use it better and better but you
cannot evolve it further I hope uh it’s been nourishing for all
of you in terms of embibing something new
which will make a difference for the children that you represent from the schools that you come wherever that is
The fundamental idea
behind a an attempt like this is
you know when anybody if if if you perceive something new if you learn something new it’s such a joy
but why is schooling such a pain
somewhere the way we delivering it we have not looked at it carefully enough
we have not put ourselves sufficiently into it
when I was supposed to go to school I did everything possible not to go
there so when I thought of creating schools I
thought we must create schools in such a way that children want to go there
What is the point creating a school that a child doesn’t want to go
So if we have to create schools that a child wants to go I think the adults
need to go to school first So
in a way these conferences are just that effort to put the adults to school So
that we all of you can create schools where the child wants to go
Of all the different manifestations of human beings
the categories are getting more and more A child
is the simplest and the easiest to make them happy and
joyful with such a segment of uh population
which is naturally joyful I don’t see why it is so difficult to create a joyful way of delivering
education There is substantial scientific and medical evidence today
that if you remain in a pleasant state of experience
that is when your body and your brain works at its best
Some studies are trying to establish that
if you remain just one day 24-hour segment in your entire life
one 24-hour segment if you remain without a moment of unpleasantness within you not a moment of agitation
anxiety irritation anger nothing just joyful
They say your ability to use your intelligence can go up 100% in a single
day When we have always known this by experience but today there is data
because without data nothing is true anymore If there is no data about you that means
you’re not here Yes If you did not register your data
into the computer all of us will think you’re not here
So without data you nothing exists So today there is data that a joyful way of
existence will enable a human being to empower a
human It will enable and empower a human being to a very high level of perception
and performance So this is a must
How is the question There may be many methods Many of you are expert educators I’m sure you’ve
discussed many many things today I will leave that to you But one fundamental is
if you are not joyful you are not going to inspire anybody to be joyful That’s
for sure
Why I should be telling you this
Because is there anybody here that you have not known a single moment of joy in
your entire life Is there any such person here You cannot be because if you did not
have a single moment of joy you would be dead You would have no reason to live
So you know how to be joyful I’m sure right now if I ask you would you like to be joyful or miserable in
your life Every one of you will say I want to be joyful So you know how to be joyful You want to be joyful
So why do you need a guru to tell you
Ah yes sguru I want to be joyful but to kick that butt
You need a guru
Yes I want to be joyful but you know what he did Yes I want to be joyful You know what she did Yes I want to be
joyful You know the weather is not good
So there is butt But but but if we just kick this one butt
out of our life Creating a joyful education will be a natural consequence If we are joyful
whatever we do whatever we create we will make it that way Isn’t it Without
we being that Now if I say let’s create a joyful education it looks like a very
complicated problem If you are joyful is it not natural that
you will cook joyfully you will serve joyfully you will talk to people joyfully you will do everything joyfully
Is it not natural consequence So right now one of the biggest mistakes I would
say a crime that we are committing is we have taken to this western mode of
doing things that is goal orientedness
That is we want mangoes but we are not interested in the tree
Soil is not even our concern We’ve gotten into this mindset
Goal is the thing We want this big mango You have this one We want this big mango
But we are not so much interested in the tree Soil is not even in our perspective
In yoga we say if you if one eye is on the goal you
have only one eye to find your way it’s very inefficient If you have both the eyes to find your
way you will find your way This too much goal orientedness
has made human beings not only in schooling in life in the way we create
our businesses the way we run the nations the way we conduct the affairs of the world everything has become so
skewed and not about life It is about some product in the end
At the end of our life there is only one product which is grave either we are investing
too much in the graveyards of the past or futuristic
If it’s futuristic it’s grave oriented cuz that’s our only future that’s going to happen to you and me So the thing is
whether it is schooling or business or anything that we’re doing is about how
we conduct it now What will come out of it Whatever comes out of it are we doing
it in the most beautiful way possible If this one thing is
embedded in us methods various tools all these the things will
come from experts There are many many experts There are whole lot of people who invested their
life thinking through these things We can use that But to use these methods in
a way that it works we need people who are first of all joyful who know how to
make their life beautiful If you do not know how to make your life beautiful
this aspiration of making everybody’s life beautiful is not going to work
So all those many of you who are as teachers as educators as experts in the
field variety of expertise that is here
and in the morning briefly I mentioned this the evolution of the teacher is the
most important thing everything else is secondary who delivers this is the most
important thing it’s not we have not invested enough in In that evolution of
the teacher does not mean just more and more tricks about education as a human
being If the teacher blossoms becomes a joyful loving compassionate
human being above all conscious human being everybody has to strive for this otherwise this will not happen This is
not something that will happen because you got a PhD This is something that you have to work upon yourself
If this process is brought into the teachers you must see the tradition of this country is this
Usually parents gave away their children to a teacher and achara guru took the
children totally in his fold because people saw him as a evolved
human being Not just a knowledgeable human being a evolved human being So they saw that if
we leave our children in their in his hands in his or her hands naturally our children will blossom
So this has to come This may look like oh is this possible to train all the teachers Why not I’m asking
for the first time for the very first time in the history of humanity We have capabilities that no
other generation could ever dream of Isn’t it in this country let’s say a Rama or a Krishna or a
Buddha so revered all right I want you to look at the reality of this
suppose a Rama sat here and spoke the gentle being that he was
sure his voice wouldn’t carry to first 50 people others would sit there and just gape
yes or no Krishna a little more playful maybe he stood up and spoke a little more loudly Maybe 100 people heard
Gautama made simple systems and trained thousands of monks He made sure
a few hundred thousand people heard But today
I can sit here right now and talk to the entire world Never before this was
possible So we have come to an age we have come to a time when we can make
truth mainstream Never before it was possible
Krishna spoke only to one guy How can it become mainstream It’s bound to be fringe isn’t it
Jesus spoke to 12 Bound to be fringe isn’t it For the
first time we can speak to the entire world It is time we make truth mainstream
If truth becomes mainstream truth means what really works If I sit here
what will leave me in the highest state of experience is the truth of my existence Isn’t it
If every human being knows what is the truth of their existence that you can sit here in the best possible way a
human being can be right now you don’t have to worry about tricks of
education In those hands every little tool will become a powerful process
in this effort to make educators teachers and others who are involved in
children’s education in this country or anywhere else We want to offer these things to you
simple tools for transformation Something that you can do with yourself
which will leave you in a better place that you than you are right now This must happen It’s my wish and my blessing
that this must happen The first question is from Romesh Balasundaram and he asks
are you open to the idea of replicating the Isha Vidya and Samskriti model with
like-minded organizations to increase impact There is nothing very unique
about Isha Vidya It is the dedication of the people which has made the difference
It’s a simple school but the people who are managing this people who are
teaching there people who are doing everything around it are highly dedicated people It’s the devotion of
their hearts which makes it look different
I don’t think anything that we are doing in Vidya is something that any of you do
not know It is just the devotion of the people which makes it look so different
See samski is not designed to take in the entire population into it It is
designed as a niche Certain number of people have to go into
this because if you want to have a balanced sensible
society where whatever tools that we have in the form
of science technology and so much knowledge about so many things today If
this has to be used in a sane way in a society as many people as are going into science
mathematics technology similarly that many people should go into music dance
art aesthetic It’s very important in home school also We have all these
aspects but still the pressures of being a part of some board
that there is a curriculum to finish never allows those children to really
you know soak it up But here Sanskrit children are 100% on that
You just saw them on stage but you must see them how they are in their life
Above all the stability that’s come into their life is phenomenal
I must share this with you This is about four years ago when the first batch reached uh 15 years of age
We have a system where from the age of 6 to 18 they’re with us The last 3 years
that is from 15 to 18 they must take brahmachara
It’s a three year or a two and a half 30 months of brahmachara they must take last 6 months we will relieve them
Brahmachara does not mean you know giving up something and going away
Brahmachara means you fix a certain period of your life as a period of absolute discipline and learning Nothing
else no other distraction So uh I am to initiate these children
They go into 15 year old kids They go into 60 days of total silence
and a sadena which starts at 3:30 in the morning and closes at 8:30 in the night
After the 60 days of silence another 3 4 days are there for initiation I just want to see how the children are This
the first batch So morning 3:30 I come to see the children in this building
14 of them six girls and eight boys They’re all sitting there
I walked in and I just sat there I just looked at them They were just glowing Literally
I just sat there and cried because when I was 15 I was not like this Believe me I was not like this
When when I saw them at 15 if they can be like this for me to sit like that it
took a long time For me to simply sit unmoving unconcerned about anything
around me it took a while But these kids at the age of 15
not by natural realization but just by training and dedication they simply
sitting there and glowing like you know lit from inside
And some idiots in the society are worried what will these children do
So what they mean by that is how will they earn their living I think it’s
pathetic A human being has to construct their life A human beings have to
construct their lives all the time thinking about how to earn a living
an earthworm a grasshopper a bird on the tree all of them earn their living isn’t it With such a big brain you’re supposed
to do something little different than just earn a living Earning a living should be the most basic thing with a
millionth of your brain you can handle it But we have raised earning a living
to the heavens today Unfortunately entire system is about how to earn a
living how to earn a living This is a way of completely destroying
human intelligence This is a way of tarnishing human genius
in every possible way because how to earn a living has become the greatest thing in the world
Why people are driving you in this direction is because they’ve built one fake economic engine which they have to
feed all the time They have to feed it all the time
Because of this we are sacrificing our children as a fuel for this economic engine that we have built It is time at
least a niche amount of children are not concerned about how they will earn their
living I was when I was growing up not for a moment I
had this thought in my mind how will I earn my living My father used to be worried what will
happen to this boy There is no fear in his heart about anything
One day I turned around and asked him when did fear become a virtue
I’m saying we are bringing up children with this fear If you don’t pass you know what will happen to you
Continuously fear-based education that if you don’t get this many marks
you finished 18,000 children
in 2015 have committed suicide in our country When our children commit suicide
we must know we are doing something fundamentally wrong There’s no question about it anymore isn’t it Children are
fresh life exuberant life If children have to take their own lives
there is no worse thing that can happen to your society I’m asking you is there a worse thing
Many of you are parents is there a worse thing than this That your child less than 12
13 years of age committed suicide Can you ever recover from that I’m asking
This is the most horrible thing that can happen And this is happening because in
our country 98 is pass mark Okay
Yes Even if you get 98 parents will ask what happened to the other 2%
So we as educators if we are really responsible human beings we need to turn this around It’s
very very important and this is a crucial time All these years there has
been a certain economic deprivity in the society where they wouldn’t listen to
anything Earning a living was everything At least we are on a threshold of an
economic possibility This is the time to change the mentality of education This
is the time for the parents and the children to look at it little differently So you can Sanskriti partner
with other schools If you want one of those disciplines to be taught maybe we can look at it in the
next few years but you cannot transform a regular school like a Sanskriti It needs parental
total uh you know agreement with the parent that this is possible I don’t
think a school like this would happen unless people were spiritually in a
state of experience where they want their children to pursue something like this Right now we are not able to take
the children who are coming in because we are not able to build facilities
and uh certain forces in the society are filing cases against samskriti education
because uh these children are not concerned how they will earn their living That is their concern The next
question is from Dr Nidhi Rajan Namaskaram sadguru As teachers who
deliver knowledge to children is it not important for teachers to remain physically and mentally fit This concept
of fitness of teachers is not looked into properly Teachers need sound body
and mind to make a child learn well I find many be trainees are physically and
mentally not stable there is no system to address this Uh definitely it’s very
very important if you want to inspire a child as I said earlier it is not just
by talk when they look at you you must be an inspiration
just the way you are this has to be brought into education
system that teachers are of a certain quality in terms of physical well-being
mental well-being aesthetics simple aesthetics it must be brought not into their
training because a child is looking like this He doesn’t miss a thing
He misses everything that you’re saying but he doesn’t miss anything that you are
[Applause]
So definitely it’s a very important aspect Unfortunately it’s not been done
because generally that ethos is yet to be in the society itself but we have to
bring it The next question is from Naven Krishna Morti How important is spiritual and
yogic thinking in school education How to implement it So when we say when we
use the word spiritual the moment you utter this everybody has their own
misconception about what it could be So let me put it in proper perspective
You must understand the moment you refer to somebody as spiritual
the word seeker also goes with that You are a spiritual seeker You are not a
spiritual believer You are referred to as a believer if you adire to a certain religion But you referred to as a seeker
the moment you say I’m spiritual A student is a seeker Isn’t it
A scientist is a seeker A teacher must become a seeker It’s very important So
spiritual process in its essence is a must for education because they have to
be active seekers Whether it is physics or chemistry or
biology or spiritual spirituality essentially it is the seeking for the
truth of the matter in that particular aspect of life isn’t it
What else is education Education is about seeking truth Maybe not the
ultimate truth but right now what we looking at we want to know the truth about it We don’t want to know some
rubbish about it We don’t want to believe something about it We want to know the truth about it If you look in a
microscope we want to know the truth about an amiba
We don’t want to know We don’t want to believe what an amieba is We want to know the truth about it So a student is
a natural seeker A spiritual process should bring the discipline into your
student See not to believe anything but at the same time not to become abusive and
disrespectful disrespectful of things around you takes a lot of discipline
I don’t believe a thing that you say but still to listen to you
takes a certain amount of discipline and culturing This culturing is a must for a student
that every human being should learn I don’t have to believe anything that you
say but I have the necessary regard respect and inclusiveness to sit and
listen or to raise a question and object
This is something that has to come into your society If human thought process
has to rise to a different level if you abuse people
people will get restricted If you don’t question them they will get restricted
Questioning without abuse questioning respectfully everything that happens
around us is most important And this is the fundamental of spiritual seeking So
spiritual process is a must for any genuine student unless you’re just trying to earn a
living When you say yoga you also the previous
question was about fitness Above all a capacity to stretch yourself
beyond what is normally considered normal without yoga When I say yoga
don’t think a particular system of yoga this that When we say yoga it means union
In some way without a certain amount of union happening between the teacher and
the student how can there be education I’m asking education is yoga isn’t it I
know you referring to physical yoga Should we bend the teachers and twist the teachers We should It’ll keep them physically
limbered up I’m saying this is true in the eyes of a
child This is true even in your eyes It doesn’t matter what is your age If you
look at somebody walking towards you whether they’re agile and come lightly
like the breeze or they waddle around makes a difference for you or no Your
impression and your willingness to interact that with that person will it be different depending upon how their
physical stature is Definitely for a child it’s important Teachers must be
put through a certain why yoga why not some other exercise Every other exercise
largely most of the time needs equipment This is a simple form If you have a
ground to stand on you can do it There is nothing more secular than yoga
because everybody can do it wherever they are You don’t need equipment you don’t need instructors nothing In the
beginning if you just learn for a week you can do it by yourself So in rural
schools in you know large part of India is still improvished All right It’s very
important we bring yoga to bring health wellbeing mental agility everything
I I got into yoga for all the wrong reasons But it worked miraculously well for me
because that is the beauty of this existence Whatever your intention if you
do the right thing right things will happen to you So the science of yoga is about
understanding the body and the mind and how we can get the best out of it so
that your body and your mind does not become an impediment but they are wonderful stepping stones in your life
Tell me right now your back is aching You’re sitting like this A child comes bubbling with enthusiasm
Yes or no Because a child’s enthusiasm and effervescence
is such you need the energy of 10 people in you to handle a child You need the energy
and effervescence of a of 10 people If you hand want to handle children in a
healthy manner otherwise put them down That is what will happen This is not
just in school Even at homes it’s happening because the parents don’t have the energy to manage the child They just
reproduce But after that they find they don’t have the energy to manage a child because he’s all over the place
When you have 100 children on your hand you better be super energetic
For this you need yoga for sure The next question is from Ganesh Dear Sguru what
is your opinion of teaching in native language versus teaching in English
These 25 or 30 different languages in this country
If you add up all the dialects they tell me there are 1300 dialects
but at least 25 to 30 full-fledged languages with a script of their own
with a huge body of literature behind it A full-fledged language is not a
overnight happening The oldest language on the planet is Tamil language You’re in Tamil Nadu
When see language is a very important part of human intelligence
Many linguists around the world have clearly recognized the power of language
Human ability to use language essentially is rooted in India
It’s from here the ability to use the language came to the rest of the world
Almost all the languages which are largely in Europe and Arabia based
all of them have Sanskrit influence on them So
in our eagerness to just get a job we
don’t have to completely destroy these languages We will lose out something very very big See English is a fantastic
thing in terms of its simplicity in terms of
because internet and you know modern technology has taken to English language
It is a must Nobody can be against English anymore You got to take it Even if you don’t
like the British you have to like the English language
It is part of our language Now one good thing we did
though many bad things happened during the British rule One good thing is we
absorb the language Today many educated Indians can speak better English than most British can speak
It’s a good thing But at the same time we should never kill these languages which have been there for thousands of
years because the phonetic range that is there in Indian languages is such it
stimulates every aspect of who you are English language has a very narrow
phonetic range So this ability to use sounds to
stimulate and trigger one’s intelligence and energy within ourselves is something
that we should not give up Every child must know one more language other than English whatever that is because anyway
our states are divided on linguistic basis So in that state whatever the language is they must know In our
overenthusiasm for employmentoriented education I know many schools are completely destroying
the local languages This should not happen Local language must be there It must be a part of you At least people
should know how to speak and read If not you’re not a great you don’t know how to
write great literature At least you must know how to read and speak one more language other than English language Our
education policy has taken that into consideration It is the responsibility of every school to ensure that happens
and I feel the easier way to do it is maybe they’re studying science they’re
in English medium they’re largely studying English language but you could make some play some theater some art
something in local languages so that people use that as a a social thing use
that as an entertainment where there’s a natural interest in how to express themselves in that language
language It is a must We should not kill these languages because it’s taken thousands of years to create it This is
our national pride that we have the maximum number of languages If we had to
create this many languages see we must understand this For example let’s say
Tamil Nadu and Karnataka Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh Tamil Nadu and Kerala
There is no there are no geographical separation There is no there are no
oceans between these states There are no mountain ranges clearly demarcating and separating the
populations for a long time But though they lived here for thousands of years they kept their language These people
kept their language It’s so beautiful
When they went to trade and transact they learned the other language but they
always kept their language But today the new generations are losing their
language so rapidly It’s very important all of you at least in your homes with your children and wherever possible
There must be a certain amount of time where we must use the local language It’s very important We will regret this
deeply after a couple of generations if we don’t take care of it now because you can’t bring back a language You can kill
it but you can’t breathe life into it It’s very difficult We teachers are
constantly instructed to make the children be aware of good touch and bad touch Even at the age of three when they
are in kindergarten after they get to know they react in a very different way As a teacher I find
it very embarrassing to see them Is it very necessary for all the kids to be
taught about this See unfortunately lot of very ugly things have happened in
schools Unfortunately it is a reality
Child abuse in schools
has been a very a very deep concern Tell me if I’m wrong I’m saying this from
my own experience of being in school which is long time ago
When I was growing up in the schools I have heard of a few cases of some kind
of abuse I would say it was maybe
today even boys are being abused which was I believe was not there at that time largely
maybe one in a in a school where there were about 400 500 girls maybe about 10
or 15 girls could say that in some way they were you know not properly handled
by somebody It was never a widespread thing as far as I know
Even today I think it is not so widespread but it’s much bigger than before
I think this compulsiveness growing like this one important factor which has
contributed to this sudden upsurge of this kind of things could be I’m not an
expert on this but knowing human beings could be because of advent of internet
and pornography being freely available to everybody these simple-minded people
when they watch these things I think they’re just going crazy one drop of alcohol That’s it They lose their
control upon themselves and all kinds of things happening It’s not that these things have not happened in the past
Unfortunately human history is replete with these kind of things
But it’s not large scale This talking to very young children
about this healthy touch or unhealthy touch or whatever kind of touch
I think puts unnecessary fear and they become close to everything and everybody around them It is uh you know there was
a time if you see a young child you could go and pick it up whoseever child it was now you have to hesitate
which is the loss is too big that human beings cannot respond to a child without
concern the loss is too big in my perception but at the same time in the schools when
something goes wrong then of course all of us will complain Especially
if you are the parent you will be devastated I feel if it is happening
from the teaching staff putting them through proper screening training a certain amount of spiritual
see this is important when we say spiritual people think you’re trying to take them to heaven No spiritual means
you’re relieving them from the compulsiveness of the body and the mind
some amount of spirituality This needs to happen for people who handle children This needs to happen to every human
being But particularly because you’re handling a fragile life Uh if all these things are done will it
stop 100% No But we can only improve things We can’t eradicate things This is
not some polio or something that you can put a drop and get rid of it There is no magic wand for all these things in a
continuous committed way If we work at it we can bring down the incidence to a
negligible point But even if it happens to one child you can’t really ignore it
But using that as a basis and poisoning the child minds of every child
is uh not in my in my understanding He doesn’t agree with me
But I understand that those who are running schools when certain incidences
happen they become hyper this thing and the media glare and the ugliness that
happens around that I have not still figured a 100% solution for that really
but I feel a spiritual evolution in the teachers constant effort to do that
could considerably bring that down I have a concern um I’ve attended several
conferences and in each conference we go away with a key point and we say that teacher education is a solution to
most of the travailes of education in India So we go back and all of us agree
and we think it’s an urgent need this we all agree but then I don’t know what
kind of steps concretely we can take towards this in terms of teacher education there are two sections one is
existing teachers how to improve their state of mind their attitude towards
children towards curriculum and new teachers new teachers it seems to me is easier but also when you look at the BA
program with all due respect to Mr Rajput Dr Rajput that they are also they
don’t answer the need of modern children modern society and when the inservices
goes on for existing teachers they’re all fragmented and because it’s not supported by the system they don’t stay
it’s just like one more flash in the pan so while we all agree that we have to
give a major thrust to teacher education and empowerment what concrete steps can
we take in a holistic way and you know completely in in a countrywide manner
That’s that’s the biggest question looming here for me Yeah For all of us I
suppose See countrywide when you talk we must know how wide our country is It’s a
very wide country All right Not only wide in its size very wide in
its variety There are language issues there are cultural issues there are variety of
things So I don’t think we should think countrywide
We can think boardwise There are different boards main boards like ICE CBSC whatever
It’s very easy to impact them because these boards are sensitive and active and they want to constantly they’re
looking for improvement in these boards Easily it can be brought But the majority of the children are in
the state boards So then it is statewide You have to convince the state government
Every state government at least in Tamil Nadu I believe there’s a 20-day training for all the teachers every year
So there is an effort I’m saying there is an effort from the administration to do that But what
happens in this whatever number of days these training aspects I’m sure the
government won’t hand over the entire thing to you Suppose it is 20 days This 5 days your 5 days suppose you give it
to me or some other organization who capable of that Now at least a part of the
training an NGO which is competent to run that which is committed to education can run at least a part of it Government
will not hand over everything because education department has its own stuff I don’t want to get into administrative issues But even a part of it if an NGO
conducts you can improve the quality significantly This could be a solution
to get the government operators apparatus to another level or another dimension of quality
Uh that’s a very aspirational I would say
efforts are there but it’s not going to happen overnight It’s too big a machine to make any decent change in a
reasonable amount of time because it’s too large a machine So some committed NGO some university
somebody else could take up this training and at least offer a part of the training to this In this we can
include how to have the teacher physically mentally fit some meditiveness some yoga some various
other aspects which will enhance their life which will benefit them in some way
So the teachers are incentivized to come there and also in United States we are doing this with some of the schooling
systems they have credits So how many credits a teacher earns how many trainings a teacher has gone to adds to
their credits If so many credits means adds up to their increments in their salary
Uh these are policy decisions We can’t change them But bringing an NGO or a
university or a certain schooling system which is successfully functioning right now can take up a part of the training
and make a difference Namaskarum satguru So I’m saying that the idea of
competition is so much ingrained in our minds not even at the school level but even at the post-graduate level or any
aspect of our lives that it creates a lot of unnecessary stress So what can be
really done about this If you’re incompetent and you’re in competition you will feel stressed
So if you if you want to be in a competitive situation the thing is you
have to work on your competence Right now the problem is you’re tweaking
your desire You’re not tweaking your competence This is what has to happen
that we must teach children to tweak their competence not their desire
We are calling this ambition We calling this goal orientedness Ambition means what You tweaked up your
desire you’ll suffer invariably If you tweak up your competence you will see
wherever you go you are doing better than what people expect you to So naturally things will go well for you
Competition is not the bad thing Lack of competence is the bad thing We must
understand this in this country This is very important because we still think
our education is cooked in heaven because I people tell me temples are
crowded just before the examination Just the wrong place to be
Just the wrong place to be when your examination is coming You sitting in the
temple is just the wrong place to be in the vacation You sat in the temple Great
So instead of competence we have big desires
If you focus enough on enhancing your competence you will see there is such joy in breaking limitations every day
and becoming something better You don’t care a damn how somebody else is doing
Yes If every day if you’re breaking limitations when I
was speaking to the I think our homeschool I was telling them a class a
class full of children should sound like eggs are hatching you know I used to be
at one time I used to do uh seric culture you know silk farming
and I was amazed I was so amazed I didn’t take them to the market sometimes
Because these these if you just leave the cocoon long enough if you don’t take
it to the market you should see how it opens up
like this It’ll be making noise slowly They’re opening it up When a million of
them are trying to open you go inside this room
It’s going This is how a school should sound that every moment they’re breaking their limitations
If you are breaking the limitations of who you are if your competence you’re
working constantly to expand you don’t even have the time to look at somebody
How is he doing Because this is such a great thing happening within you So
please focus on your competence Competition you don’t bother If you’re good you’ll be on the top otherwise
you’ll be somewhere Namaskarum satu I’m glad you brought up the topic of natural
resources and if you look at education or even natural resources especially in the rural sector it comes directly under
the purview of the government and unfortunately as you rightfully said it’s not easy to dent the system and get
them to realize what is actually needed for the betterment of the nation So in
that case what is it that we can actually do because as far as natural resources are concerned in rural sector
there’s a lot of encroachment that happens and nobody wants to touch that aspect be it the bureaucracy be it
polity because they’re afraid of losing out on votes If you speak of education and empowering the children as well as
teachers they don’t want to venture in that space because they feel that if they empower them then who’s going to
come to them How will they retain their power So how do we make that mind shift and how can we who are here today and a
lot of other people working in that field can come together to ensure that we can drive a leadership towards a
direction which is needed for the betterment of the nation There is a serious re resource crunch on all levels
The fundamental problem is in 1947 when we got our independence
we were 33 crores of people
Today we are 125 crores of people
That’s a four time four times 400% increase in 70 years
So naturally there will be resource crunch You can never create Nobody is growing at 400% Isn’t it
So you can’t grow anything at 400% So obviously everybody will have less and less as time goes by But of course there
are fertility clinics running busy in Chennai and everywhere
That’s another matter Another important aspect is this is the bane of democracy
I mean I’m not saying we should leave democracy and go elsewhere There’s no other option We have to stick to it and see how to make them responsible
But when you give somebody just a fiveyear mandate
in that last one year goes in election in between of course there are three
states election that another one year goes So after all you are giving him a three three and 1/2 year mandate
When somebody has only three and a half year commitment to what they want to do
none of the long-term goals will be taken into consideration Only short-term goals will be taken into
consideration It’s a natural outcome of that There was a time then where a king ruled
for 25 years or 30 years Now in his time whether that kingdom prospered or went
down people could make a judgment in three and a half four years making
that judgment itself is not fair A nation of this size how can any man
even if a superman comes how can you turn everything around and make
everything beautiful and wonderful in 3 and 1/2 years time 125 cr people diverse
people I’m saying it’s a little it is a
dichotomy in which we are We cannot go into any other mode of governance other
than democracy There is no other way for us At the same time how to make it
worthwhile for the person who occupies that seat to invest in long-term goals
If he invests in long-term goals he loses his election for sure So obviously people are not able to
recognize what is our true well-being If you give them something free they
think this is great This has been happening since uh I think
they started in ‘ 80s Suddenly they started at that time the rice you know the rice we eat used to cost 12 to 15
rupees in Andhra Pradesh I think that’s where it started first they started giving it for 1 rupee 1 rupee 1 kilogram
who pays the remaining 14 rupees nobody knows
I’m saying even a rural housewife knows if I have 10 rupees I can only buy 10
rupees worth of goods isn’t it that much economics everybody knows you don’t have
to be a PhD everybody knows we can only spend what we have you cannot spend what
you don’t have isn’t it so still I think we need to educate the
citizenry that they can understand if a political leader talks about long-term
goals people can understand this as oh this is our well-being
right now the electorate does not understand that so naturally the leaders try to
do those shortcut methods where none of the long-term goals get addressed unfortunately So ecology education all
these things are back burners because they won’t win you oats
After all a democratically elected leader is always thinking about oats You
can’t blame him You can’t blame him isn’t it I’m telling you if you were in the game you wouldn’t
be think thinking of the vote you would isn’t it so we need to educate the
people what is a true well-being what is a sham of a well-being
this must come to the hearts of people then we will they will also have the
opportunity to focus on long-term goals any long-term goal means whether it’s an
individual life or the life of a nation any long-term goals means short-term sacrifice We must understand
this always [Applause]
[Music] So we are always thinking of changing the system I’m not saying it should not
It should But within the existing systems we can
do many things depending upon the individual teachers and individual educators how they
operate Because when you try to change the system in your own time when you
want to change the system you must understand any system even within the family if you want to change a system it
will take many years It’s not going to change overnight Sometimes a generation has to pass as
for it to change To walk into your house with your shoes on one generation has to pass
Isn’t it So instead of thinking how to change the
system yes we must have the vision of changing the system But within the system how to do the maximum delivery is
something that all of us should always look at Otherwise we are always talking about future generations without
addressing the current generations It’ll never work that way It’ll only be a dream We have to make the difference in
the current generation Only then if you take a small step now the next generation will take a bigger step But
without taking this step we are dreaming of a big step It will not happen It will be just an idea which will not work So
as an educator you mentioned the word meditation We misunderstand this what meditation
means The word meditation the English word meditation doesn’t mean anything If
somebody sits with their eyes closed people think they’re meditating But you can sit with your eyes closed for many
reasons Unable to bear the world you can close your eyes Yes
you may be in yoga There is many things You may be doing japa tapa dhadana
samadi shya syyama We don’t know what you’re doing So there is the word meditation is not
specific It is too general and it’s not saying anything in particular Let us say
if we are thinking to align the word meditation with what we refer to as dan
or dana or danam as you go south
Uh because Hindi speaking people you have a way of clipping away the words in the end H we say Rama you say Ram said
Danam you say dan you’re cutting off everything in the end that’s your option but
if you are thinking it is dan or dana or whatever what this means is if you sit
here if you sit here if you clear if you have a distinct experience that your body is
here your mind is somewhere else what is you is elsewhere or in other words there
is a little space between what is you and what is your body What is you and what is the content of your mind
Suppose this little space was achieved within you right now Would all these young boys be complaining about stress
You must do one thing If you are an aviator you would know this You’re driving to the airport traffic
jam traffic jam traffic jam Uh you curse everybody and honk and do all this and
get there Then you fly Then you’re flying over the traffic jam It all looks
very nice you know simply because of the distance
When you are in it it was a terrible thing Once you’re flying above it it looks quite nice actually Traffic jams
Once there is a little distance that’s the end of suffering So if they if you create a little space
between you and your body between you and your mind this is the end of suffering
because there are only two kinds of sufferings in your life Physical suffering mental suffering Do you know
any other kind of suffering H only two sufferings If you distance
yourself a little bit that’s all Distancing is not by attitude Anyway these are accumulations You gathered
this body You gathered this mind If you keep what belongs to you
one way and what is you in another way it’s taken care of So we can teach you a
simple method with which you can do this very very simple process Every human being is capable of this Let’s
understand this When it comes to external realities all of us are differently capable No two human beings
are equally capable When it comes to inner possibilities all of us are equally capable No human being has come
better endored than the other It is just that most human beings never look in
that direction [Music] We must understand this engineering
means essentially to make things happen the
way we want it That’s engineering isn’t it To engineer this building means what
We want it the way we want it We could have sat under a tree but we choose to
build this building because we want to sit under something engineered the way
we want it as suitable for us
We are conditioned the place because we want the temperature in a certain way All this we did But is it not important
that you engineer this the way you want it Hello Outside is air conditioned Inside
is boiling What’s the point I’m saying power is being wasted on you
In the last 150 years with the advent of science and technology
we have more comforts and conveniences than any generation ever could imagine Isn’t it Yes or no You have more
comforts and conveniences than any generation could ever imagine We are the
most comfortable generation ever physically materially
But can you say are you the most peaceful generation
joyful loving No Or can you even say you’re the most
intelligent generation That’ll be wrong thing to say Anybody
who claims he is intelligent amounts to foolishness isn’t it Because the
significance of intelligence is it shows you how many loopholes are there in your
intelligence Only a fool thinks there are no
loopholes A truly intelligent person always sees how many loopholes in my intelligence
The significance of being in a technological institute is not about
just getting qualified to get some job somewhere or a passport out of the country It
should become a way of creating life making life happen better than the way
it’s happening right now Because this is a fundamental responsibility that we have as a generation of people because
we occupy this space on the planet for a short brief time When
the last generation gave this planet to us whichever way they gave it it’s our
business that when we leave it we leave it little better than the way we had it
very important how better in what way better you can decide that I won’t say only
ecologically better but in every way better it must be better than the way we
got it this means we have to engineer ourselves
to fit in such a way see a well-gineered machine means least amount of friction
is it it so yes a well-gineered machine means What Least amount of friction
Heavy friction means badly engineered Isn’t it Isn’t that the understanding
So the fundamentals of yoga is this The fundamentals of yoga is in the geometry
of physical existence If you understand the geometry of what
this human mechanism is the body is the psychological structure is the chemical
processes are the energy structures are If you understand the geometry of this and become capable of observing the
cosmic geometry if these two things are well aligned suddenly your life hits off
like a magic Your life is no more a miserable drag But it’s magical simply
because you have gotten the right geometry of things Anything that is
geometrically perfect will functions absolutely smoothly and
for a very long time This is something that you must do to
yourself when you’re young It doesn’t matter
what you want to do in your life One thing must happen Your body and your
brain should not come in your way They must work for you Yes or no Hello
Never your body and your mind should not come in the way of who you want to be
Right now for most people they themselves are a big issue
When you are a issue how will you address the issues in the world If you really want to address the issues
in the world this one should never be a issue Isn’t it I am not the issue here I am never the problem If there are
problems I will deal with it But I am never the problem This must happen to you isn’t it Please make yourself like
this that you are never the problem You’re always a part of the solution Never a part of the problem Right now
[Music] right now we have developed a certain attitude in the country A whole lot of
people for every solution they invent a problem
For every solution they have found a problem So there are people who are working for problems There are people
who are working for solutions Young people should stand up and become a solution for future generations to come
and your own life to blossom because the greatest fulfillment in one’s life is
that you function in such a way that you could do something which is much larger
than yourself This must happen This is the highest fulfillment of activity that you are
able to do something which is larger than yourself Only then you will see fulfillment in
activity Activity is one thing but most important thing is how you are People
come to me like right now you are all saying your IIT is the problem So I’m inviting to IYC issa yoga center
Lot of people come to me and say sguru this these are people who passed out Okay
Sguru my mother-in-law She’s she’s another
you know from somewhere else She is
I just don’t know how to live with this person And my husband
after all her son
My wife impossible my boss he’s not even human like this it goes on then I tell them
see don’t worry your husband wife mother-in-law boss
nobody will come here you’re protected like IC
also well protected nobody will come here you just come and stay I’ll give you a nice place to say
food is Good You don’t have to do anything Just be joyful That’s all None of these
tormentors are there Just be joyful
24 hours you leave them in the one room You must see in how many ways they twist
themselves out When you are alone if you’re miserable
you’re obviously in bad company isn’t it
So all the young people should do this to yourself at least for 3 days one week
I will provide you the atmosphere Otherwise you can walk into the Himalayas But there there is no food and supply
You know you will have to go searching I will provide you food everything Just come spend some time not with any
purpose Simply if you sit alone for 3 days no television no book no texting
simply by yourself Let’s see what happens You must know the nature of who
you are You should not go on dodging yourself and one day you will explode into something You must know what is the
level of madness you’re suffering When I say madness if your mind is out
of your control is that called madness in def in definition Hello If your mind
does not take instructions from you it’s out of control Is that called madness Just try
just today after this event just go sit quietly in your room Just see what all your mind does
You You decide Don’t tell anybody You decide what is the level of madness
you’re going through with this If you enter the world what will you create You
will only create who you are Isn’t it You cannot do anything other than what you are What you are is what will happen
to the world around you before you step out into the world Is it not important
At least you are this much equipped that you are not the problem
If you meet a problem and get married we’ll see But you are not the problem
Can you make this happen for yourself as young people that you are never the problem H
you are not the issue in your life Other issues if they come we will deal with it to the best of our ability but this
should not be issue isn’t it This can be easily done very simple
processes If you invest on 20 30 minutes a day you can bring this possibility into your life It is just that it needs
a certain orientation because life is continuously outward to
turn inward It needs a certain help and situation has to be created to make that
happen We are very much willing to do that with you It’s my wish and my blessing This must happen to every youth
of this country because India the people of India has suffered immensely I don’t
know to what extent all of you are exposed Many of you are from good families I have walked through rural
societies right from my you know uh early youth
It’s not good Believe me it’s just not good It’s not some idolic
situation out there It is bad
It’s very bad In most parts of the world where we are they say they are the better off states The better off states
are like that I know the bear rules how they are
We can’t just live like this We can’t just continue to live like this insulating our humanity and thinking
everything is okay It’s time we we have a living humanity that our heart beats
for everything Our heart bleeds for everything and we will do the best we can do in our lives If we do not do what
we cannot do there’s no problem But if we do not do what we can do we are a disastrous life isn’t it Is my wish and
my blessing You should not be that disaster [Music]
Do you think that from ancient times till now uh do you think that things in India have changed so if if if they have
what what brought us to the change we are we are in and how do you see the
this development process of great individuals how do you see that being manifested in the modern times and to
finally add how can how do these ideas sometimes that they’re not so relevant
in trade systems I’m Sorry not I’m assuming that these ideas of individual
development focus and individual are not so relevant today No we’ve gotten into
mass production of everything So how can we actually bring it back and how should I ask
question
See for anything to happen you need a certain ecosystem certain economic
uh what to say a certain economic depth to for people to able to do it You must
understand this The generation that we were growing up our parents were just crazy that you must somehow get one
degree and get into a government job Your parents are not doing that They are thinking little more easy They’re trying
to explore things They want you to do a startup They want you to do a business They want you to get into sport This was
never there They were just saying get a job somehow otherwise you’ll be on the street
This was the level of economics of the time Today there is a little more economic space where parents are looking
at their children little differently Still we are little compressed in the heads but little more ease than what it
was 40 50 years ago Ask all your professors They were just push push get a job get a job first thing Today
parents are not looking like that They’re looking at what can you create What can what can our children create
What can they live How would their happiness Nobody ever thought about our happiness
Okay So it needs a certain economic depth for
any society to experiment to have little more freedom to do things otherwise
putting them through the extruder and getting them out in some form in which they’re useful This is what the society
will do This is a natural consequence of 15 20 generations of extreme poverty
This is this mental structure and this economic structure is a consequence of 15 to 20 generations of extreme poverty
Very bad poverty means India has suffered poverty like nobody else People may show uh you know pictures of Africa
and stuff You must know this In Africa there have been famines there have been wars unnecessary wars and tribal wars
which have caused this in small scale In India the level of malnourishment and poverty that’s happened in the last two
centuries is most painful No other nation on the planet has suffered as
much as this country No other country has lost as many people as we have lost
in the last century just for hunger and lack of nourishment Even today it is
true though we are much better today even today unfortunately it is true that
we have the highest number of malnourished people in the country more than 60% of the rural population
even today they have not grown their skeletal system has not grown to full size when they’re in that state you’re
only thinking how to make a living you’re not thinking of how to open up human genius you’re not interested in
all that you’re not thinking how to become selfre realized you’re only thinking how to make a living So this
has happened to us because we’ve been an occupied nation for too long We’ve been ripped off in every other way
There’s no point blaming somebody We didn’t take care of it at that time It went out of our hands But 250 300 years
ago everybody wanted to come to India Why Because it was the richest country on the planet
We occupied a 33% space in the in the economic space of the planet at one time
Today probably we are 2 or 3% H so because of this extreme poverty we
have a certain mindset but I think in a generation or in next 15 20 years a
whole lot of people will come out of this because there’s little more ease little more space to play with little
more space to push it When a earthworm with 1 millionth of your brain can earn a living with such a big brain earning a
living is it such a big problem It is the most it’s the grossest way to approach life is how will I earn my
living Everybody can earn their living The only problem comes in your life when
you want to live like somebody else That’s a problem But earning a living is not a problem If you just make what is
considered survival minimal don’t go on exaggerating it Then you will see you
have a whole lot of time and opportunity to create what you want in your life But people keep on raising the bar of
survival so much that they will not get to do anything in their life except surviving
In the end they don’t know why they survived [Applause]
[Music]
essentially a long spell of peaceful civilized life
A long spell You must understand this The reason why we got this long spell is
in the north we were protected by the Himalayan ranges in the south by the
Indian Ocean So this is Himalaya The Indian Ocean that we call today as
Indian Ocean at that time was called as Hindu saga This is why we took the identity he and do Hindu
Hindu is not a religion not a belief system not a god god oriented thing It
is a geographical identity Unfortunately it’s turned into many things Today that’s a different thing So
we identified with these two geographical features because we realized it’s only because of these
features that we had an undisturbed civilization growing without any
external agencies coming and disturbing us When there is a long spell for a human being where he doesn’t have to
fight for his survival on a daily basis that is when human genius flowers in
many ways human genius flowered We produce the greatest mathematicians greatest astronomers greatest musicians
all kinds of people and many technologies which we refuse to
use simply because we foresaw if you go this way what will happen to the world various things If you look back on the
glorious history of this country it is simply because which is true even today
See you can build a great society or a great nation or a great world not by talking about it Only by building
individual human beings who are truly great Without great human beings where is a
great society Society is just a word Nation is just a word World is just a word Individual human beings are the
only reality What kind of people we are That’s the kind of India we have isn’t it
[Music] So the focus
right from ancient times in this country was always about individual development
We never see this is why the western commentators are missing the entire point They don’t they think India never
had a civilization because we never spoke about it We refuse to speak about society about nation We only spoke about
individual development because if you generate great individuals we will
naturally have a great society A great society is a consequence It is not the
cause The cause is great individuals So our focus was always on producing great
human beings never on producing a great society or a nation that happened as a
consequence [Applause] about the education to children I always
feel more than right to education
there has to be a right kind of education India is intellectually poor at the moment What is your take on it
India is not definitely not poor on intellect I would say I speak to all
kinds of people around the world business leaders academics scientists
but still I would say pick up 100 people from the street just like that either in
Mumbai or Chennai or Bangalore I would say
they are way smarter than most people that you can pick up anywhere in the world It is just that
we do not have an organization for this intellect to find expression
for this enormous intellect that country has there is no structures for people to
find expression to that you just see take Indian people and put them anywhere they just on the tops because once they
find proper structures and they understand the structure you can’t stop them because there isn’t necessary
intellect This is a consequence of
a very huge history a cultural history that we have It is time that this
generation gets the right stuff But that’s not happened yet because our
education systems and every system that we had has been disrupted badly in a
systematic way because we have been an occupied nation for nearly a thousand years
In 1947 when we got our independence we should have seriously thought about what
kind of education does India need We must understand this without any
infrastructure literally without infrastructure without any kind of education
our farmers are producing food for 1.25 billion people Yes
This is knowledge Why is this not knowledge I’m asking why is this not knowledge Why is this not competence
This is a nation with over 12,000 years of agricultural history The only land
like that on the planet But we have tried to push everything aside and
reinvent the wheel Once again we want to learn ABC and do it like this So there
is a disruption in the intrinsic learning that we have and the school learning that is coming to us We are
thinking only what is written in the book A plus B equals C is only knowledge
Why is not making a wonderful sambar knowledge Why is not growing a crop knowledge Why is not making a pot
knowledge We have very constipated sense of what is knowledge
We must understand this to build a sensible social fabric
It takes hundreds of years normally in a society to build a culture where every
kind of life every kind of human being finds reasonably
equal opportunity It takes a long time for a society to structure itself
When aberrations happen in the form of war or whatever else which disturbs the
entire fabric of the society you don’t expect everything will fall
into place just like that It doesn’t This is not just true of this society
This is true of every society in the world Because
we must understand this Every transaction we make in the world
if you profit somebody else loses If they profit you lose This is the nature
of every transaction But to come to a cultural situation to
come to an inner situation where we are willing to play the game if we lose we
are able to gracefully go to the next thing to do To come to this place you
need a social fabric Individual human beings can come to this within themselves but for the larger
society to manifest that it will take its own time How quickly can we make it
happen is the question How quickly can we put back social structure so that
everybody experiences a certain level of comfort and ease and security in a given
society This depends on many things There is administration there are social forces
there are individual people everywhere who can do this
I would say if the leadership in the country when I say leadership I’m not
just talking about presidents and prime ministers In every society there are many tiers of leadership
Any one of you who comes in touch with 10 people in a day you have this choice
You can either impact them positively or negatively or you can just let it
pass by So if we start a social movement where
everybody strives to impact everybody positively whoever comes in touch with me today I make sure that I impact them
positively Then there is a sense of ease When there is no sense of ease people
will do extreme things Always people should come to a certain sense of
ease First thing is there is an assurance of physical well-being
First thing is protection to life a certain assurance of food and shelter
Then other aspirations of education and social equality and all that stuff I
think the nation is largely working towards that I think in this it’ll be very good for
Uganda See we have always thought of nations means their unassalable borders It is
not So I’m saying we can be thousands of miles away but we can form nations
together and grow together This is a time these are times of
collaboration These are not times of competition
World prospers industry prospers business pros prospers individual human
beings prosper only by collaboration not by working against each other So I would
say it’ll be wonderful if culturally where there is certain significance
culturally where there is certain coherence if nations collaborate I believe East Africa is trying to
collaborate with each other Similarly a larger collaboration you can
do because thousands of years of collaboration has happened between India
and eastern Africa I think this collaboration should grow where both the
people will benefit Any any relationship is sustainable only if both the parties
are benefiting We must always set it up this way because if it’s an exploitative
relationship it will not last long Whether it’s marketplace or marriage it
must be beneficial to both otherwise it won’t work Isn’t it
So setting up such relationships is vital because why I’m saying India and
Eastern Africa is this is one thing about India We have been an occupied nation for over
thousand years This is the only and only nation on the entire face of this earth where after
thousand years of occupation we have still retained our culture
We’ve still retained our languages We’ve still written our literature
So there is such a very strong fabric of culture which set certain things in
place by itself It’s important that one collaborates together so that similar
structures can be built here so that people can have that sense of security
and comfort for a long period of time And if we do the right kind of
collaborations and the young people in Uganda if they stand up to make these things happen we
are also I am willing to invest a certain amount of time towards this
If we take this in a certain way it is possible already I feel the leadership
here has done a wonderful job from where it was to where it is today
But you must understand leadership can do only that much It’s the people It’s
the people who have to take it up This is if this is our nation we have to make this happen If this spirit does not come
in us if only spirits from the bottle are going into us the spirit should rise
from within us It should not be going into us Isn’t it
There is a spirit here this must rise Not this kind of spirit going in that
gets you up for some time and then gets you down This if it gets up it’s always
on So it’s my wish and my blessing that
better times will come
Better times must come But we should not wait for better times to come We must
make it happen Let’s make it happen Thank you very much
I’m sure there are many buing entrepreneurs that are in this room What’s your advice to them to start new
businesses Uh increase the levels of employment for the 50% unemployed youth
that we have in our country and grow our economy so that everybody can be more prosperous 1% will not There are many
things that need to be done There’s no one particular thing But entrepreneurship is something that needs
a certain psychological ecology of its own You will see those uh youth who come
from business families so effortlessly create businesses Those who don’t come
from that ecosystem they struggle and struggle and they can’t figure it out It’s not lack of intelligence it is lack
of experience and exposure So I would say one of the things is the youth who
are willing to wanting to do something I’m sure there many many of them if some kind of selection can be made and
they’re exposed to enterprises in similar conditions let’s say in rural
India how people any number of enterprise India is a land of enterprise because till 2000 only 3% of Indians
were employed 97% were self-employed so whether He may be selling uh 5
kilograms of vegetable or fruit or maybe a very large billiond dollar business It
doesn’t matter Even he understands how to do business where he has to position
himself what he has to say what he should not say These are simple things But till you’re in it you don’t learn So
learning this experience not necessarily from the public but there are institutes and institutions in India which can
teach entrepreneurship We ourselves in Asia are starting a leadership academy in Bangalore city uh where youth from
these countries can come and get exposed to variety of enterprise I mean the
incredible thing right now in India is the variety of enterprise is unbelievable
When you go for so much enterprise some of them will fail So it needs a net to hold them so that they don’t fall back
onto the street or hang from a tree which is unfortunately happening here and there But uh it is time to do that
because we have chosen market economy There is no other way than to unbridled
enterprise Is it the best thing I’m saying no But right now to get people
out of their poverty situations to make sure everybody eats When I say everybody
eats in India it’s very true I’m sure here also to some extent But wherever I
go in any country first thing I see is what’s the condition of the children I find to my joy the condition of the
South African children is way better than the conditions of the Indian children in rural India It’s a very good
thing to see At least they’re better nourished for whatever reason In India
this is true that a child has to go to school and spend 8 hours there but he
has not eaten what he needs to eat to stay alert for these 8 hours and grasp whatever he’s supposed to grasp A farmer
goes to his field and he’s not eaten what he should eat to do that hard task
of you know farming Or a pregnant woman has not eaten what she should eat to
produce a lively healthy child These are terrible things but these terrible
things are happening because populations are large and uh we are not able to
create a social net So this is why this corporate social responsibility was
brought in But people find ways to use this money in so many different ways That’s another matter But social net has
to happen But the danger of social nets is always about destroying the work
culture and breeding lethargy This is something the administrators have to carefully
uh I would say it needs a certain level of heartlessness
uh where tough decisions have to be made People are suffering but still you make tough decisions so that long-term it
works out well for you that today you start doing out food to everybody You will see if you want to destroy a nation
you don’t have to bomb it You just destroy work work culture it’s finished
[Music] The thing for activists like us is not just observing the system It’s about how
we continuously strive to change that system so it serves more people than it
currently serves and the shape of the pyramid begins to change I suppose we both activists and there are many others
I’m sure in the audience who are trying to create this better world using different roots different methods but
with the same aspiration In the last 20 years I have focused a lot on the business leaders in the world
because those 1200 people who gather at the economic forum they control almost
80% of the world’s economy If their mind minds and hearts changed a
bit things would change When in India they introduced what is called as corporate social responsibility 2% extra
tax of all the people I benefit from that because our schools our medical uh
things in the rural areas everything gets funded by this corporate responsibility
But I said this is not good People were shocked that I’m talking against it So I told them see the nature
of business is such we call something a business because it
benefits two people Any transaction in the world is sustainable only if it benefits both the
parties whether it’s a marketplace or marriage This is the fact
it should benefit both the people If you create any model which does not benefit both the parties you cannot sustain it
you have to constantly give it injections So the only good thing about the market economy is this that there is
competition and competition So whatever the unilateral things that have happened
dominance has happened in certain areas I think we must inject serious competition so that entrepreneurship is
all over that if you make really good food all over Johannesburg
McDonald should become empty by itself you should not try to close it down if you try to close it down then it becomes
a different process that you cannot control when I don’t like you I will want to close you down that will lead to
a completely different spiral so the business leaders if their way of looking
at life changes then you can instead of making a whole lot of money billions of
dollars and then contributing to some cause you can structure your business in such a way that every customer is in
some way a partner with you So we thought of moving a fund where we said
we call this 1%.com we started at that time the economic forum was very active later on uh because the 2008 recession
everybody backed out of that so this is something that I brought in I said if we can convince all the governments at that
time it was very close we had spoken to people whatever you spend on your military 1% of that you contribute to
this and here the top level business brains will sit on it and see how to do
business in those societies which are improvished where proper businesses
cannot go and make profit So you give them very soft loans almost 0% interest
or 1% interest 20 years but you have to do business in that area where nobody
wants to do business right now because it’s not profitable because money is expensive they don’t want to do business
there so very low cost money you give them so that they can do business so that there’s entrepreneurship all over
the place I think that’s the only way to fix it is it the best thing I don’t think so at all but is Is there a better
option I don’t see any The best way is to bring little more consciousness into
the business leaders The best way is to bring more competition into business so that competition levels out unfairness
of business that is happening So my question it’s it’s it’s a little
personal based on where I live So I live in Montana Much of Montana is very rural They’re
only there only about 900,000 people in the whole state There are more cows than people in Montana but there’s a lot of
poverty in Montana People really struggle to earn a living there So people often are working two three jobs
very busy not such great access to fresh food or good food unless it’s grown
there And one of the things that you said today really resonated with me
tonight was how do you when you wake up in the morning how do you feel And so
people don’t think it’s okay to think about themselves and think about how
they’re feeling and what they need to do each day So how do you begin to tell somebody
that has to work 12 hours a day working two jobs comes home to a family to to
start engaging in some of these more more spiritual and more selfreization
types of practices because my experience has been well I’m too busy you know this would be great I I can get up in the
morning and maybe drink some warm water or or do something but to actually take
the time to think about themselves is is very hard
So if uh if if you think that uh the work that
you’re doing is very important then the first thing that you need to do is work upon yourself
How do you enhance your work without enhancing yourself You are not going to
do anything more than yourself Isn’t it Everything that you do is just an expression of who you are Without
enhancing this the nature and the quality of your work will never enhance Strive as much as you can Right now this
is the problem with the world Most people are suffering so many things enormous amount of stress in their
day-to-day activity just to earn a living which every worm insect bird is doing But human beings with such a huge
brain are going through such a struggle just to earn a living simply because they trying to enhance their activity
rather than enhancing the person the me If you do not enhance this
one and you try to enhance activity it is like you took your old beat up Ford
in Montana on a F1 racetrack Well it’s going to fly in different
directions You need to have an appropriate machine to get onto the track So if the work if
you think your work and family deserve a better deal
you must work upon yourself If you don’t invest on this one there will be really no result only you know just wasteful
striving It is very important that this must be enhanced if you want to enhance the work
There is no other way to do it [Music] [Applause]
[Music]
So I I think this is a a very important point that you’ve just made in that we
do have a very um unique position now in history where we have the capability to
do some of the things I think that we’ve all been thinking of which is to create I guess what I’d call a health
revolution Um we certainly need one here in the United States and I’m just you talked
earlier about a culture of health and I’m just wondering what you think might
be ways that we in the United States can take advantage of some of the wis wisdom
of traditional Indian culture to help create a health revolution here
I think one uh fundamental thing that we have to fix about this wisdom business is
wherever I go people say ancient wisdom
No wisdom has to be contemporary Ancient wisdom will not work
There are some aspects of wisdom which are timeless any time they’re relevant
But many things which were very relevant a thousand years ago are not relevant today There are certain fundamentals
which are always relevant So let’s look at only that For that the first and
foremost thing because you’re talking essentially about health a little bit of we have to produce a
users manual for this most sophisticated gadget that we have A users manual What is the
nature How does it function If when I when I talk about this see if you as much turn your hands around the way you
breathe will change Most human beings have not noticed it If you simply turn
it around the way your breathing will alter itself
So this is because it is like you’ve been given a super sophisticated computer but you are in still caveman’s
mindset You want to beat it into action somehow So this is the essential problem The
reason why let’s say taking United States as a example this is not going to
be the problem of only United States United States has uh come first in the
race Okay Others will get it because they’re
all going the same way Right now US is a stock example
One thing is we go on raising the bar for survival
We must define this is survival This means you’re good enough After this it
must be exploration of what you really wish to do But we keep on raising the
bar of survival in such a way Now even after becoming the most affluent nation
a whole lot of people are just struggling for survival
This is senseless And affluence affluence means your survival is done
thing isn’t it But like you just mentioned they’re working three jobs to survive
This is not affluence This is horrible poverty At least in India we can sit back and enjoy
See the way we have structured the society right now is people have a 35 year house mortgage
I mean if you have a 35 year economic commitment to something tomorrow even if
God popped up here you can’t change the direction of your life because the bank is here
What will you do Because largely you’re all from Christian community So I’m saying if Jesus popped up tomorrow and
he says come follow me You’re not going
because uh no not busy You have to you got monthly payment You got bills to pay insurance to pay
You can’t change This is a silly way of organizing our lives The question the the very reason why we want to become
affluent is so that depending upon what life offers us we can change the
direction of our life whenever we want Isn’t it Isn’t it very important This is
one thing that has to sink into the American people Being the most affluent nation means you are not battling for
survival This is happening because you’re raising the bar of survival endlessly No matter
what you do you’re still only fighting for survival If this one thing we change then we can do lot of things about
health and well-being and beyond that Thank you
[Music] [Applause]
Today’s world is about possession It’s about buying the next biggest car the next biggest house I won’t name any
brand the next handbag or shoes or whatever it is what what’s
the how do you reconcile that ethics of just acquisition at any cost sometimes
with great depth uh and if you like the kind of value system that yoga would
teach one or ask one to embrace see the yoga does not teach any value
system that’s the beauty of it the yoga only strives to give you methods to
create an experience of inclusiveness from your inclusiveness from the
experience of inclusiveness See suppose you experience the person next to you as a part of yourself I don’t have to tell
you be nice to them Don’t kill them Don’t harm them All these things not necessary Now about wanting more
Wanting to be more is natural in a human being Whoever you are whatever you are
you want to be something more than what you are right now If you know only money you’re thinking more money If you know
only handbags more handbags
because you can’t make it bigger because you got to carry it
More handbags And if you know wealth more wealth If you know knowledge more
knowledge If you know love more love Whatever is your currency But every
human being is striving to be something more than what they right now If that
more happens to you right now what next Hello More If that more happens what
More More More All right If you look at this carefully this process of wanting
to expand consciously if you look at it how much more would settle you for good If you see this you clearly know that
you are looking looking for an infinite expansion If I make you the king or queen of this planet would you be
fulfilled I’m asking Don’t look at me hopefully I I will not
I am not known to commit such blunders You see the principle of acquiring more
is causing trouble in the world because the world is becoming increasingly like
South Africa and many other countries including India more unequal So I picked
up some interesting numbers Uh this is when finance ministers do look at
numbers uh that global private wealth in 2015
rose to $168 trillion if you can imagine that and that’s a 5.2% 2% increase and
the greatest increase comes from Asia Pacific China has now over 2 million
millionaires uh amongst them India is growing fast in that direction as well The Asia-Pacific
region uh grew in wealth at 13%
uh to 37 trillion of wealth amongst the top records
And trade unions for example from from Britain says the following For all the
moral angst being expressed by business leaders and politicians about growing wealth inequality very little is being
done to change the status quo Unless companies here and across the globe
reigning executive salaries pay pay their fair share of taxes I’m sure by
now all of you have heard about Panama a country that you didn’t think existed and invest in decent jobs the yawning
gap between the halves and the have nots will continue to grow That’s the dilemma which is causing all sorts of
difficulties both within countries and within the globe as as a whole What’s an
alternate way of looking at the question of wealth and greater equity in in the globe
See search for this wealth is what creates all sorts of conflicts amongst
human beings and contradicts the kind of ethic that I think that you are promoting
No I’m not uh promoting any ethic This what I want to say Human beings want
more If that more happens they want more and more and more So if you really look
at it what they are looking for is not more They’re looking for all
They want all That’s why I said if you become the king of this planet will it settle No You
will look at the stars This is the nature of the human being You cannot contain this You can give as many ethics
as you want You can give as many pacifist philosophies as you want You
cannot contain the desire of even one human being because the longing to expand is inevitable within the human
being Now if you want to expand in a limitless way
trying to do it physically is a foolish thing Your desire is fantastic Infinite
expansion is a fantastic desire The method is hopeless This will not happen
by having more cars or more bags whatever is your thing
This can only happen if you transcend the limitations of physicality This is where yoga comes in Yoga means you learn
to erase the boundaries of your physicality Erasing the boundaries of physicality
means right now as we sit here this is me that is you 100% clear No any kind of
ambiguity about that But as you sit here to be alive you have
to breathe Breathe means what you exhale the trees
inhale What they exhale you inhale One half of your lungs are actually hanging
out on the tree So are in other words what you think is you is not some kind
of a solid state Every day something comes in something goes out Transaction
is happening Not just on the level of food and breath Every subatomic particle
is in transaction with everything else in the universe Yoga means that this
reality of your existence you begin to experience It is not a philosophy This is modern
physics which is telling you that you don’t exist as an individual It is
happening as one big happening But the magnanimity of the creation is such
though you are just a microscopic existence Though you are part of
everything you’re just a bubble in the larger space Still it gives you a
powerful sense of individuality so that you can experience your life as an individual But the reality of the
existence is this is one living cosmos and you blew your soap bubble When you
are children you blew soap bubbles Your bubble and somebody else’s bubble was distinctly different The moment it burst
my air and your air there’s no such thing Similarly this we have blown these
bubbles and without the rest of it being there we cannot be here So knowing this
experientially is yoga that you understand not intellectually but
experientially you know that your existence is not individualistic but
it’s universal So this economic disparity is happening because people
are trying to fulfill this aspiration of wanting to be something more something
more something more because they don’t know anything else They’re going through money right now because the disparity
and the rise of wealth in certain countries whatever is
see one thing we must understand in the last 100 years
no new imports have happened to this planet from outside Do you agree with me
Little exports have happened Some spacecrafts and others have gone but no
imports have happened No major asteroids have come in to add to us So we are the same amount There’s a very beautiful
incident which happened in 2008 when the recession was just hitting which we were discussing just before this
An American delegation went to China I happened to be in the e economic forum
uh at that time and you I saw the entire American delegation was carrying you
know a mileong faces all in a state of depression because they had a few
billions less than before what they had four months ago a few few billions less
so they were all miserable So they asked me to handle a a session called
recession and depression at the World Economic Forum
So I said recession is bad enough Now you have depression
The way we have structured our economic engine the way we have structured the economy of this planet right now is such
if you fail you will be depressed If you succeed we will be damned for
good Yes So I said it’s better you’re depressed
At least you can sit down and think what are we doing wrong No more has happened on the planet We’ve just turned one
thing into another another thing into another Nothing more we have added to the planet Right So a delegation went to
China American delegation and they were all in a state of depression So a Chinese wise man gave them a lesson
He took a chair and placed it in front of a mirror and he said “See there are
two chairs now one here one in the mirror.” He went and stood between the
chair and the mirror and said “Now there’s only one chair.” And now you’re depressed There always was only one
chair There always will be only one chair But in the marketplace you can place two
mirrors and create 10,000 chairs or a million chairs if you want But there has always been only one chair Let’s learn
to sit on it properly Let’s make sure everybody can sit on it somehow
So this wealth creation generation disparity all said and done I’m not
saying it needs to be fixed yes it needs to be addressed definitely but one thing is clear all of us all of us compared to
how our parents were living materially we are living better than them yes or no
please you must admit compared to our grandfathers we are living way better than them Yes or no
Compared to our great greatgrandfathers we are living way way better than them Or in other words we are the first
generation enjoying these levels of comforts and convenience Let’s not whine
Let’s strive to do what we want But we can do it joyfully We don’t have to
become miserable simply because somebody else has more This more business will go
up and down Who has more Who has less keeps happening But the important thing is we look at somebody else and we
become miserable Yes this disparity must be addressed The ownership of the
property unfortunately is going into a few hands in the world which has to be
fixed But how will you fix it If you try to fix it you will move towards communism
Pointing in my direction No no no I used to do a bit of communist
[Laughter] and now I can firmly point at him
So communism is a fantastic idea There’s no better idea in terms of economics
that everybody by his need not by his greed So fantastic When Marx came up
with this idea many people around the world all right thinking rightinking
people got very excited about this around the world Markx predicted United States of America
will become the first communist country in the world How wrong he was The word
communist is the worst thing that you can say to a person in
United States today particularly in the 1950s Even now
even now if you want to really accuse somebody of the most horrendous thing you don’t call him a murderer You don’t
call him a racist You say he’s a communist That’s the worst thing No that happened in No now I’m not pointing at
you No I’m pointing down here That That’s what we were called in South
Africa whether you were there or not So this happened Mark Twain was so excited
about this communism So he went to Russia So he was walking in a country
road and he saw a country gentleman with two hens under his arms walking So he
caught up with him and said “Uh comrade is it true Are you a
communist?” He asked He said “Yes I am a party member.” said “Is it true that if you had uh two
bungalows you would give away one to somebody who doesn’t have?” He said “Of course I’m a
party member I would do that.” He asked “If you had two carriages would you give
away one to somebody?” He said “Of course I hold office in the party in my
village I would definitely do that If you had two chicken would you give away
one to somebody?” He said “What the hell This is all I have
So what was a fantastic idea became a ridiculous thing in practice because
people who had nothing wanted to share
when people who have something want to share it’ll become a beautiful thing I
have a lot and I want to share this would become a beautiful thing in the world but people who had nothing the
poorest of the poor societies they took to communism because they got nothing to share But if the richest became
communist what a wonderful world we would have created This was the vision of Marx But unfortunately he might have
known lot about economics but he misjudged human beings
Not every situation which seems like a solution is actually a solution And not
every situation which seems like a problem is a problem So what is a problem What is a
possibility It’s like this There was a little bird in Michigan
United States And winter was just sitting in This is a
time he has to move south to warmer clims But he was a little too happy and
tweeting around You know he had found lot of company in the human species that
so many of them were tweeting So he was also busy tweeting and he kind of
delayed his flight south So after weather started freezing he
tried to fly and his wings froze and he fell
Then a cow was walking by and it
you know cows droppings happened It landed straight on the bird
Feeling the warmth of the dung slowly the bird recovered and became very happy
and tweeted again from within the dung
A hungry cat was passing by heard the tweet opened up the dung and ate up the
bird So not everybody who heaps on you are your enemies
And not everybody who gets you out of are your friends [Applause]
[Music]
It is just that if you are equipped if you have equipped
yourself in such a way no matter what happens
you know how to make it into wonderful possibility for yourself Because what life throws at us is not
our choice always We try to manage it to some extent but it’s not entirely our
choice Life may throw all kinds of things at us
But what we make out of it is 100% ours If this one dimension if we take charge
of this no matter what life throws at me I will make this into a tremendous process for myself Let it throw whatever
It doesn’t matter what life throws at you You will turn it into a possibility You will not make anything at your
problem because you are not a problem This is a choice that every human being
has either for every situation
When I say every situation there are only situations and situations and situations in our lives When you don’t
know how to handle a particular situation you call that a problem
What is a problem for you may be wonderful possibility for somebody else Usually is
isn’t it There are no problems in life They’re just situations
You can either make it into a possibility or a problem You can either you yourself become a
possibility or a problem This is a choice every human being has
But to exercise this choice you have to be in a certain way within
yourself Within yourself you are in a certain state of equinimity balance and
exuberance that no matter what life throws at you you
will make it into a wonderful possibility Life can throw all kinds of horrible
things Do not underestimate life It can do things to you
Yes it can it can do all kinds of things to you
Most unexpected time it will throw something at you that you did not imagine possible
The more active you are more unexpected things happen to you
Yes So instead of trying to control what life should throw at you equipping
yourself in such a way no matter what it throws at you you will make it into a
wonderful possibility If this one thing is done within the
human being then every situation is a possibility
Once every situation becomes a possibility this human being will blossom
to a full-fledged life And this is the aspiration of every life to somehow
become a full-fledged life People
always kept account of money and things that they have
but very few people kept kept accounts of how they are or they’re progressing
or regressing or what is happening People have taken on this mode
If small things go wrong in their life they’ll find one little person down
there and say it’s because of him I’m talking about the husband
If big things go wrong it’s because of him
The big guy up there This guy never in account
The little people are big people This one
this one acts really big when he has to receive something But when he has to give something he really acts very small
People taken on this mode This is because there is no clear accounting
process and no clearcut balance sheet This is where I stand in my life
If there was an accounting process
if you shall we make an audit Yes Little bit of
life audit When you are 5 years of age how joyful you were today how joyful you
are The balance sheet is it profit or loss
that means it’s loss
I was uh I was speaking to a a group of people at the Princeton University
and I looked around a whole lot of people sitting with long faces
particularly in your university the faces are extra long
Maybe it’s the weight of knowledge I don’t know So I looked around except for three four
faces which were young faces which were bright all other
then I asked them what’s happened to all these people over 30 years of age why
are they carrying such long faces One lady stands up and says they’re all
married
This has happened only because there is no day-to-day accounting Every day before you go to bed if you
had a balance sheet going today am I a little better human being or am I a
little worse every day If you had accounts once a year if there was a
clear audit external audit
then very quickly you would have recovered But after 25 years one day you realize
you are deep in the red now very difficult to recover because it’s gone
to another place We’re to a point where a whole lot of
people have an argument that it is not practical to be joyful
in the accounting job A whole lot of people are actually
arguing that it’s not practical to be joyful
You you met a lot of them Yes or no People are making an case that it is not
practical to be joyful Is it practical
to be in various states of stress and distress and still function properly in
the world If one has to function in variety of atmospheres in variety of situations
variety of challenges on day-to-day basis one fundamental thing is this must
be a peaceful and joyful being Isn’t it Otherwise how is it practical that a
person under great stress or distress can function effectively in any field or
any area of life [Music]
I was uh 3 days ago I was in Dubai
and then I came to Bangalore The temperatures in Dubai were clearly 5
to 6° lower than Bangalong
I inquired what happened to Dubai Why the hell is it not burning
They said uh last few years they’ve been doing lot of cloud seeding
Because of this there’s a cloud cover and a little breeze from the ocean The
place feels very cool and nice The Karnataka government did some cloud
seeding a few years ago I don’t remember exactly which year but they did
Then they gave up because it rained in Andhra Pradesh
What to do with the damn clouds They don’t stick to state borders
instead of doing the right things Right things means the way it works
There are whole lot of people who are geared to do fanciful things because it’s the fancy of their
imagination or culture or religion or whatever
So if you want to set up a distribution system
of course the transportation is best that it goes in a straight line
unless there is Himalayas in the way Because the shortest distance between
two points is always a straight line
from here to there If you want to go you don’t have to go like this That’s okay for the snake
because he has other purpose on the way
Transportation must be as far as possible Straight lines
because it shortens the distance lowers the cost
and lowers the time consumed quickens everything
So you draw a triangle and you go like this and go like this
You want to go to Bangalore you go to Chennai and go to Bangalore you’ll have a triangle reasonably perfect triangle
But that’s not called a distribution system If someday if somebody gives me the
money to build a whole new city I’ve been waiting
If someone gives me money to build a whole new city I would make that city
into a powerful yantra It can be done But now in the existing
reality you want to set up a supply chain You don’t go about building a yantra
not in that pattern There are a few things we can do but no
we have to work with the existing realities
So whatever research you join
systems there are many other ways to look at it you can say yantra because yantra always
starts from a central point and geometrical expansion
Well it may make sense but it also depends on already the
existing centers where things are needed isn’t it You draw Anantra road map on
India and instead of delivering goods in Chennai you deliver it in Bay of Bengal
What’s the point Because the Yantra triangle goes there
In so Chennai you deliver it near And under what is the point
Your life’s effort if you’re a researcher or you are anybody your
life’s effort is to be how to
make complicated things simple not simple things complicated
A lot of spiritual teaching has become like this Simplest things they complicate and it becomes spiritual
If you are you know if you flew kites did you No
you were researching What is this You didn’t fly a kite You
don’t know what you missed Go and fly in this June July Instead of doing some research take a break and fly a kite
Chinese manga is available now in the market
If you fly a kite you know these days they got all rollers
and those roller people will never fly a kite Well uh we all have it around the bamboo
It’s a certain thing to keep the thread like that Otherwise little mess you do it’ll get all knotted up
It’s just a single string but it gets all knotted up And the more you rush
around you can never untangle it It’ll become a big mess Simple straight thread
It becomes such a complex net as it is with life Simple straight line
line from home to tomb Straight line
Is there any complication in this If you were going to one place I was
going to another place crisscrossing roots There was some complication Just womb to tomb straight line
See how people are tangling it up in a million different ways
So uh don’t tangle up the supply system of this country Okay
we already have meandering roads This is because in ancient times they
did not make roads bulockart highways You know India had bulockart highways
few thousand years ago The grand trunk road some of them even
today are national highways what used to be bulockart roads at one time
the northern trunk road which goes somewhere from Delhi up to Kolkata even
today is highway number one so when bulockarts went it’s animals
which have to drag even a small mound they went this way because it was easier for the animal there was no 600 bhp
engine there just two oxen so even a little hill they went this way A little
mount they went that way They didn’t want it to go down slope cuz it’s hard on the animal No brakes you know Animal
is a brick So they went that way that way that way And towns got built up
along this road So when we made new roads
we didn’t have the heart to leave out the towns and make a new road So we went
along with that And all our roads became like this like that like that like that
Because everywhere there are towns and towns supply chain you know bulk with the supply chain
So now when we made our national highways we tried to make it little straighter
But still one town here one town there one town So we made like this like this like this like this We could make from
Delhi to Kanyakumari one arrow Only thing is
only those who are going to Kanyakumari can go on the way Nobody else can use
the road because it is not touching any of the major cities So it may look little not so sensible to
go this way this way this way but here there is Amedabad here there’s Mumbai here there’s Bangalore here there is
something else You got to touch all of them otherwise there is no supply chain
So supply chain is just an arrangement
to see how efficiently things get to people
You don’t have to think of anything If you observe your body look at the supply
chain to every even your fingernails are still growing or I know you lost your hair but your finger
it’s a clear sign blood is not reaching
There is a supply chain inside to every fingernail it’s going Isn’t it
so what every part of the body needs Is it going or no
Just observe your body You have the best supply chain diagram
If you want a great nation you must do something to produce great
human beings There is no other way
If you want to produce great human beings we have to facilitate and structure
methods and systems where human beings are not curtailed
Every human being can find full expression to who he or she is
This is a structural thing which needs to happen which is beginning to happen
But India has had a a traditional system
that people don’t necessarily depend upon except for external activity for
their own development They don’t depend on any particular outside system
This is the reason no matter what happens you will see the country is not disturbed in a real sense as other
nations would be disturbed because there is an organic
sense of being completely organized within myself
This is something that the entire world should get This will be India’s greatest offering how an individ individual human
being can be fully organized within himself or herself in such a way that no
matter what happens they will stay their course
There are many ways to look at this No nation which has been occupied by very
strong forces for over 800 to,000 years has retained its culture or religion or
music or clothing or anything Everything has changed You just look at Europe
Arabia North America South America Australia Africa everything has changed
This is one nation which has retained this because there never was a leader in this society Everybody is self-organized
by themselves Is it not good enough if we have good roads good bridges good facilities
All these are important But the most important thing is that if you sit here
you are complete by your own nature This is the most important thing Otherwise
you can sit in air conditioned rooms and still boil inside of you
When I closed my eyes for months on end and sat everybody wrote me off You know I went
and sat in a small farm in a remote place closed my eyes and simply sat Food
didn’t come very often So I lost a lot of weight I was very muscular and strong when I was a student Then I closed my
eyes and sat Food doesn’t come by itself You have to go behind it So I lost a lot of weight and simply sat there Of course
my parents were super disappointed My teachers one by one they started coming and said we thought you will do
something but you you’re gone You finished
I said uh I have never been this great in my life I might have lost weight
maybe I don’t have money but I have never felt life was this fantastic as it
is right now So what’s fantastic about you
Because your your friends have become engineers doctors is officers What’s fantastic
about you I said I don’t care what they have become I know something fantastic has
happened within me Will this will the world value this or
not Who cares In terms of life I have found something
super fantastic and that’s all that matters They thought I have lost my mind also
At one time they really thought I need psychiatric evaluation
simply because you are not trying to be better than somebody
because the entire world seems to be but this is the ethos of this nation We
never looked at how somebody else is doing There are beautiful stories like this On this side of the river there’s
one village on that side of the river another village They can see the people They can hear them talking They see the
cooking smoke but they never went across the river and
met those people Said they seem to be living well We are fine here Why should we go and see They never went People
will say oh these have these people have no exploration sense Well all the explorers went into India
Africa Asia Australia What have they done Slaughter In the end we never had
such a need because this was a land of seeking Seeking and knowing was the highest
value Conquering and establishing something was not the highest value
Establishing the human being was the biggest value Not establishing others
edififices and structures in the society This
people thought is a disadvantage But at the same time we became the most vibrant
economy on the planet for many centuries We were the only real economy Everybody
wanted to come to India Not because they were in love with you because this was the richest land That
is why everybody wanted to come here One wasama reached here many drowned in the
ocean but still they wanted to come because this was the richest land on the planet Like right now everybody wants to
go to America because it’s a richest nation on the planet
So with without a sense of conquest
we became a very vibrant economy This is a very unique achievement which we need
to bring back to this world because today our mode of economy itself is a
conquest and it’s a destruction The way we have structured the economy in the world is such
today the living earth statistics say if all the 7.3 billion people on the planet
have to get what an average American citizen has we need four and a half planets
but we have only half a planet one half has been taken if really economies
succeeds on this planet as we are planning it right Now this is the end of the world Really it keeps going into
recession to save us This is like the proverbial story where
a man is sitting at the wrong on the wrong end of the branch and cutting it When he succeeds he falls
We have taken to this mode but we operated this country in a different way
Our success would not make us fall Our success would not be a detriment to
somebody else We have to bring this back It’s we are part of the modern economic system now
It’s not easy But still individually we can all cultivate this that our success
is not just about this and that and what people think about us about how we are
how we are as a life how I am within myself This is my success isn’t it
For this I don’t have to look at somebody who little worse than me or better than me Wherever I sit or stand
this feels fantastic This is a successful life isn’t it
If you try to control the variety of situations that may pop up in your face tomorrow morning all that will happen is
you will become a very limited life You would step out into the world and do
whatever that needs to be done only if you have an assurance No matter what you
walk into you will not lose yourself You will walk full stride Otherwise
you’ll only be a half a step Most human beings are half steps because
the fear of suffering If this happens what will happen to me If that happens what will happen to me If you’re well
managed within yourself you know how to manage your thought you know how to
manage your emotion you know how to manage your body your chemistry your energy If you know how to manage all
this what does it matter if you walk into hell I’m asking if you are well-managed if you are a heaven within
you what does it matter where you go Hell also will be an interesting place to go But if you are ill-managed then
you want to be in a nice place all the time You will not step out into anything
I am not saying this is wrong This is against nature because in nature every
life is aspiring to be as much as it can be Isn’t it Every life is naturally
aspiring This is not a philosophy This is not an ideology that you must do this or that It is natural and intrinsic for
every life that it will do as much as it can from an earthworm from a worm to an
insect to a bird to an animal to a tree every one of them are trying to be
full-fledged life If you go against this simply because of the fear of suffering
then all possibilities of exploring the nature of being human the tremendous
immensity of being human is just lost upon humanity Today you will see this
everywhere When people say I am only human they are talking about the limitations
of being human They are not talking about the possibilities of being human Isn’t it When if we are the most
intelligent species on the planet if we are the most capable species on the planet should we be talking about our
possibilities or should we be talking about our limitations Whenever anybody
writes or says “Oh we are human.” They are always referring to their
limitations never to the possibilities of being human This is because the the
most fundamental things have not been taught in our education systems How to
handle your thought and your emotion Your psychological drama has gone out of
control It’s a badly directed drama Believe me
if it was a well-directed drama you would take it to the conclusion that you want isn’t it Because it’s a badly
directed drama Just about anybody can take charge of it Who is the director of
your psychological drama Just about anybody isn’t it Anybody can make it
into a tragedy The reason why people have not even
learned to manage their thought and emotion By the time you’re 10 you should have learned it At 60 people still don’t
know how to manage their thought and emotion They’re standing up like ghosts in their
life They don’t need anybody’s help They can go on endlessly creating suffering for themselves Now suppose you did not
know how You have normal hands and you do not know how to use it What would you
call yourself No you you tell yourself Don’t tell me
it’s okay Whatever you think if you have a normal process of mental faculty and
you do not know how to use it it means the same thing Yes or no
Does it mean the same thing or no You don’t have a normal hand then you can’t use it That’s different We will look at
you compassionately But you have a normal hand and you don’t know how to use it
Whatever word you use to call yourself don’t tell me But the same thing goes if you don’t know how to use your thought
and emotion towards your wellbeing Isn’t it Because ill-managed
because the fundamentals of life are not grasped What is the nature of my
existence If you don’t know this how do you manage it
Only if you grasp the nature of something then you learn to manage it Isn’t it You don’t even see what it is
How to manage it There is no way to manage it So the first and foremost
thing that’s why is called realization You must understand this in this country
in this culture We never refer to any kind of spiritual realization as an
attainment We only said it is a realization Realization means
you simply saw what is already there You did not invent anything
You did not climb the top of a mountain You beginning to see everything just the
way it is But that has become such a rarity
that it is being hugely valued
Someone was asking me three days ago I was in Kerala Sguru you seem to know everything
I said see there is only one thing I know I know
this one thing from its origin to its ultimate
I said I know only one thing and what are you clapping your hands for I know only this one thing But because
the nature of human experience is such you know everything only through this
one isn’t it Namaskaram saturguru So I’m saying that
the idea of competition is so much ingrained in our minds not even at the school level but even at the
post-graduate level or any aspect of our lives that it creates a lot of
unnecessary stress So what can be really done about this
Competition is a good thing If you’re incompetent and you’re in
competition you will feel stressed
[Applause] So if you want to be in a competitive situation the thing is you have to work
on your competence Right now the problem is you’re tweaking
your desire You’re not tweaking your competence This is what has to happen
that we must teach children to tweak their competence not their desire
We are calling this ambition We calling this goal orientedness Ambition means what You tweaked up your
desire You’ll suffer invariably If you tweak up your competence you will see
wherever you go you are doing better than what people expect you to So naturally things will go well for you
Competition is not the bad thing Lack of competence is the bad thing We must
understand this in this country This is very important because we still think
our education is cooked in heaven because I people tell me temples are
crowded just before the examination Just the wrong place to be
Just the wrong place to be When your examination is coming you sitting in the
temple is just the wrong place to be In the vacation you sat in the temple Great
So instead of competence we have big desires
If you focus enough on enhancing your competence you will see there is such joy in breaking limitations every day
and becoming something better you don’t care a damn how somebody else is doing
Yes If every day if you’re breaking limitations when I
was speaking to the I think our home school I was telling them a class a
class full of children should sound like eggs are hatching
You know I used to be at one time I used to do uh
seric culture you know silk farming and I was amazed I was so amazed I
didn’t take them to the market sometimes
because these these if you just leave the cocoon long enough if you don’t take
it to the market you should see how it opens up
D like this It’ll be making noise Slowly they’re opening it up When a million of
them are trying to open you go inside this room
is going This is how a school should sound that every moment they’re breaking their limitations
If you are breaking the limitations of who you are if your competence you’re
working constantly to expand you don’t even have the time to look at somebody
how he doing because this is such a great thing happening within you So
please focus on your competence Competition you don’t bother If you’re good you’ll be on the top otherwise
you’ll be somewhere It’s okay [Applause]
[Music] Now at times you have this intuition and
uh people around you want to justify why you are doing it and you have no logical
answer See if you just do what you feel is right
and right now mah your intuition is still not very dependable
People start developing these things for
everything When their logic fails they will think that you know you want
to do something You don’t know how to do it You’re not sure whether to do it or not do it Then the simple solution
they’re taking is okay this finger is this This finger is this Yes No Give it to the child If he holds this yes If he
holds this no This is not intuition your no I will come to you I’m not I’m going
more basic the answer is not just about you I’m just using it now this is just that your
logic has become you know incapable it’s collapsed unable to come to your logical
decision so you are succumbing to this simple way if some child holds your hand
like this or like this yes or no anyway when there are two options 50% of
the time you could be Right Yes Being 50% of the time right is not good
enough isn’t it Yes Isn’t it so
I was uh you know uh some time ago I was visiting a a homeopathic doctor
there in his clinic they had put up an ad some homeopathic medicine which will work for all kinds of snake bites
you’re living in Bombay pro probably it’s not an issue for you where I come from snakes are everywhere on a daily
basis so I looked at this and uh then I asked him how come this medicine you’re
advertising that uh it works for all kinds of snake bites because if you are
not already aware of this snake bites are fundamentally of two kinds one type of venom attacks your
cardiovascular system another kind of venom attacks your nervous system They’re two completely different kind of
chemicals and it works upon your system in a different way Generally for both you have different
types of antidotes but for everything this particular medicine is supposed to work How is that possible
So the doctor said see in India 90% of
the Indian snakes are non-poisonous So 90% of the time it works
So that’s not good enough isn’t it It’s the remaining 10% which is crucial isn’t it
So intuition don’t get into this thing about you
trying to be intuitive Never try to be intuitive Logic is dependable isn’t it
There are moments when there is certain clarity which has no logical explanation
At that time it’s okay But you never try to be intuitive If you try to be intuitive your logical mind will become
deceptive and come to all kinds of stupid decisions You’ll get suddenly
guidance voices from the heaven You know all kinds of voices people are hearing
Logic is dependable Go by it At least you won’t make a fool of yourself
There are moments when there is simple clarity for which there is no confusion It’s 100% clear Then you go ahead But
now whether you take a logical decision or an intuitive decision people around
you will always protest if it doesn’t agree with them Isn’t it
so Isn’t it so So not because you’re intuitive they’re protesting If you take
a logical decision also they protest If you take an intuitive decision also they protest if it’s not in line with what
they want So that’s a consequence that everybody has to face no matter what kind of
decision you take Isn’t it That’s something we must learn to handle
the social situation around us Namaste Suru So uh we are aware that you
are conducting a lot of workshop for the top business people all over the world and could you please share your insights
on how business leaders should act on social welfare This is good enough the audio for all of
you what she’s speaking then you got to say it not at the end of the conversation
do check Hello Yeah that’s good
So uh I’m saying that in a technological institution technology failures are
happening [Applause]
It’s uh in the last uh 20 years
I’ve been particularly focusing on global business leaders
including many of the top and variety of businesses in India
Why this is uh because the traditional
so-called spiritual always is skeptical about this
Why should a spiritual leader be talking to business leaders be in business meetings be in economic forums and those
kind of summits So we must understand this
today and for always It’s just people who live off calendars and slogans They
don’t understand this Otherwise the success of a nation is not in the success of its politics
not in the success of its even its armies but it’s always in the success of its
commerce and its business In which nation the businesses are doing
really well That nation is doing well There’s no question about it
So when this is the reality of our existence
there was a time 250 years ago when everybody wanted to come to India
risking their life You know all the European expeditions don’t think they came here because they were in love with
us because this was the richest nation So everybody wanted to come here But
today if western nations open up their visas 70%
of Indians will swim across the oceans and get there Why Because their businesses are
successful Ours are not as successful as they should be Essentially it’s that
So business is not a bad word in my understanding of life Business
essentially means it’s a transaction where both the parties benefit
And in my experience of life whatever kind of transactions we have whether the
transactions of marketplace or marriage both the parties should benefit otherwise it will not sustain
Yes So business is not a bad word at all for
me The business also had this resistance in 2006 or 2005 don’t remember the years
When I first went to World Economic Forum uh people were almost resentful
What is a mystic doing in a economic forum So this one person who spoke to me in a
very not so business-like language
said what are you doing here I said what’s your business He said we
are the third largest computer making company Well very proudly he said three
months later they were taken over by the Chinese
I said see it doesn’t matter whether you make computers or safety pins or spacecrafts or cars It doesn’t matter
what you make Essentially the fundamental business is of human well-being And that’s my business too
And that’s why I’m here and that’s why you’re here But you have forgotten your fundamental business You’ve gotten up in
the process of your uh quarterly balance sheets and you’ve forgotten why the hell you’re doing this business
Every business that you do is essentially for human wellbeing Isn’t it Your idea of humanity may be just you
unfortunately or just you and your family or just you and your community or
your idea of humanity may be the entire world The question is only of scale of understanding
But essentially every business that we are doing in this planet is for human well-being So such an important business
must be conducted in the right way When I say must be conducted in the right way
essentially any activity that we do is it
is it inclusive or is it exclusive That’s the main question So my effort has been to make the
businesses as inclusive as possible In that particular forum I coined this word
inclusive economics This is bouncing all over the world including the prime ministers have been using this word now
inclusive economics because economy has to be inclusive otherwise economy or the process of economics becomes an
exploitative process where the corrections will happen in brutal ways later on Whatever you have seen in the
last two centuries as revolutions is just actually economics becoming
exclusive and corrections happening in brutal ways on the street If you don’t
want that kind of corrections to happen it is very important that you run the business in an inclusive manner
So that’s been my effort essentially Thank you Sguru My next question is on
Chennai flood which we witnessed in December 2015 Chennai Chennai floods Oh
you’re talking like Noah So almost 280 people lost their lives
almost three three million people were cut off from basicities Uh the heavy rainfall caused around
three crores worth damages I’m not sure if Chennai or Tamil Nadu is prepared to face another situation in the near
future What needs to be done so
we don’t know how to handle a blessing That’s a whole problem when water is
something that is super scarce in the country But we build cities which are not
capable of handling even the normal monsoon rains Not when a cyclonic storm happened
That’s different That’s an unusual level of water When a tsunami came you can’t handle the water That’s a different
matter You can’t be prepared for that But a normal monsoon we are not able to
handle in most of the cities Whether you see Mumbai Mumbai is every year flood Chennai only once it happened but it’ll
come to you also because there is simply no planning We’ve just building cities
like shacks all over the place whichever way we like without understanding the topography Nobody ever built a city even
in ancient times without considering the topography of the place But today we are
such brilliant engineers We have built things without considering the topography We have built bridges and
roads all across the country without considering the topog topographical issues as if you can fix it You can’t
fix it The flow of water and many other aspects of soil dynamics and other
things are very topographically decisive So without considering the topographic
aspects we’re just building cities one building at a time Our plan is only
one building at a time sanctioned the entire plan Nobody knows where is that
plan So there is no way we can rip off the city and again put it back Not
possible We are not ready to do that We have to make corrections Corrections could be painful for a few people
which we must do I think some corrections were done People who are living in the riverbed
you know they built in the riverbed but it’s their home When you demolish this
home it looks very cruel because there’s a family living there and they’re suddenly out on the street
But if you want long-term well-being some hard steps are needed We should be
willing to go through some pain If you want long-term well-being if we don’t do those things we will live like very you
know for the day kind of people Again when it rains or when it floods or when it something happens we will always have
problems Now our problem is not a flood Chennai has only 50% of the water that it needs right now They’re saying by
2030 you will have only 22 to 25% of water that you need That is what you
need to bother about Not really flood Uh but flood was a very artificial
situation in my opinion I know many people will be angered by this Uh the administration will be angered by this
But in my opinion this was a very artificial flood Lot of wrong things being done
It should not rain You want rain or no rain Are you Did you
come up in the nursery rhymes of rain rain go away or no We want rain in this country This is
a tropical nation which receives only 40 to 45 days of average rain in the in the
year We want as much rain as possible Only thing is we have to build capacity
to see how the rain water goes down into the soil not flowing into your home This
needs some planning This needs some correction Corrections will look real when you do it but later on citizenry
will enjoy that The city will be a good place to live but uh they will be painful when we do it
Right in those lines you are talking about asking people to change the places in which they live So how can we make
them think about the society Many of the people are selfish They think about themselves So how can we make them see
that it is harming another person How can we make them see that we have to good do good to the society
See it’s not about doing good to the society You must understand there is no such
thing as society There are only human beings Together we call them a society
If you have to live in a place if you want to live by your own rules you must
withdraw to the mountains and live by your own rules But you can’t live by your own rules in nature There there are
other creatures animals You have to follow their rules if you want to survive So if you want to survive in a
human society you have to follow those rules which are inclusive and beneficial
to all Otherwise you become unfit to live in a human society If you go to the
jungle you must understand when the trial is tiger is prowling you must sit on a tree
If you walk in front of him like this then you become breakfast
So wherever you go there are rules If you want to play the game there is a
rule So to live in a city there are rules If we don’t understand this then
we become unfit to live in human societies especially when the society has a concentrated population Everybody
has to follow the rules otherwise every little thing that we do harms somebody else So we need to understand this this
sense of living in close proximity is a certain challenge
and our cities are very closely packed people
So how we walk how we breathe how we drive how we throw our garbage how we
use water everything needs to be calibrated carefully Otherwise nobody can live properly here
because of population pressure and poverty and variety of other stresses that people are going through They try
to find shortcuts That is how it is everywhere Believe me people are be are
like this This is why we must become a lawabiding nation Right now even with the rivers this is what I’m trying to do
Everybody wants to do things out of their emotion This is a nation which runs on people’s emotion Anything you
say they want to get into action today wherever I go there’s a rally for Sguru we will plant trees tomorrow I said you
not going to plant a single tree Just shut up and give a missed call
because the what is lacking in the country is a strategy
Emotionally we do things and it dies down after 3 days We have to approach
our problems strategically Right now Chennai flood as an example
Topographical maps are there All right If you just see it we know which are the
areas which will have to go Now they are not willing to go So if
they’re not willing to go we have to do much more engineering of laying underground pipes and doing things all
this stuff If this we have to do there’s a cost involved If this we have to do if we don’t dig out your house at least
maybe we have to dig your garden You must be ready for that If you’re not ready for that there must be a law which
will anyway do it But now if you have to make a law like that we should not have
people who are very nervous about winning the next election or ne winning the next uh vote confidence vote They
can’t make this laws They cannot enforce this laws There must be leadership which
is willing to do what is needed for the long-term well-being of the city and the
people This needs some courage and commitment to execute what needs to be
executed Uh Sguru now I’m going to ask a
different question So I’ve seen people copying answers but you are copying questions
So Sguru uh two major problems we all face are identity crisis and self-doubt
and self-doubt especially plagues us women So what advice can you give us
Doubt is a very good thing Only a fool is dead sure of everything
Only idiots are dead sure of what they’re doing Either you must be an idiot or you must be a fanatic Then
you’re dead sure Otherwise every moment there’s a doubt about everything It’s a
good way to live Doesn’t it conflict with confidence self-confidence
See uh we’ll come to that Doubt means you have an active
intelligence constantly looking at everything of all possibilities because there is nothing here in the world which
is 100% yes or 100% no You’re always looking for pluses and minuses and seeing how to gather more pluses and act
Is there a 100% plus in the world or is there 100% minus in the world There’s no
such thing Is there anybody here who is 100% plus or 100% minus absolutely
wonderful and absolutely nasty No they are like that We generally gauge them
and see okay in the day how many times they are nasty whether to be friendly with them or not We decide isn’t it
Whether it matches with our nastiness or not Hello
See we we are not seeking somebody who absolutely fantastic We are looking for
somebody who has whose nastiness is reasonably like ours
Isn’t it some sense of uh compatibility for every sort of
action that we perform in our life We are looking for that kind of people You want to drive with certain kind of
people You want to do business with certain kind of people You be you want to be married to certain kind of people You want to be friends with certain kind
of people What you’re looking for is different in all these areas of activity isn’t it So this is always there Only
thing is doubt is good
You must encourage doubt within yourself Otherwise you will either become a fanatic or a fool thinking you have
attained to certainity No doubt is good But you must be joyfully
confused Okay If you get confused you make yourself miserable That’s the problem If
you’re joyfully confused like me you have no issue
because you constantly nurtured confusion
Now out of that after much doubt and considering considering everything in the universe slowly clarity arises
Now you talked about confidence Confidence is a terrible thing because
confidence means without clarity you have attained to certaintity Confidence is the first step towards
fanatism You will see nobody’s as confident as a
fanatic Isn’t it Because you become a onetrack mind You never question yourself You never
question your actions You never question your thoughts and emotions You just become certain So this kind of
certaintity is of no use This will come because you believe something
You simply believe something Believing something gives you confidence but not clarity But you will walk through the
world negotiate this world well only when there is clarity not when there is
confidence Confidence is a way of blundering through life See right now
if you want to walk through let’s say one of the rows between two rows Let’s say your vision is not clear but you
have confidence What will you do Hello Please tell her
if somebody whose vision is not clear walks through one of these two between these two rows what will they do They
will step on everybody’s feet but they’re confident Right now this is what is happening
People who believe in absolutism about everything they are confident They know
they’re doing the right thing and going to heaven It doesn’t matter what horrendous things they create Yes or no
They are dead sure I’m sorry They’re not dead Unfortunately
they are so sure that they are going straight to heaven They know in which direction heaven is
you know here Here But the planet is round You are sitting approximately at
probably 12° latitude and it’s spinning So if you look up inevitably you’re
looking up in the wrong direction That is not something that they will consider They know this is the way to heaven But
the earth is spinning always pointing in the wrong direction Isn’t it But they are dead sure because they
believe this is it So confidence is a very bad thing that’s been nurtured in
people What you need is clarity Clarity needs working upon yourself It will not
come simply like that that you express doubt about everything and consider and
consider and consider constantly Slowly clarity will arise out of that because
you see clearly you have clarity Confidence you don’t have to see clearly Just like that you believe you’re right
then you’re confident Confidence is a terrible substitute for clarity Please
bring clarity into your lives If you are a confident oh you are not an engine engineering manager management if
you are a confident manager without clarity you will be a blundering fool with people
Yes But if you have clarity you don’t have to claim you’re a manager Everybody will
line up behind you to ask what to do next because they see clarity in you
Thank you Sguru My next question is on courage or bravery As a child I was I
I’ve always heard that three important aspects of life are education wealth and courage In Tamil we say kalvi selv So as
students of IT Mras the education aspect is taken care uh we also believe that the wealth part will be taken care once
we graduate from IT medas Courage becomes a question mark Could you give us some insights on courage
See uh when you do something beyond a little bit of reason
you call it courageous But when somebody else does does the same thing we think
he’s stupid he’s risking his life Okay When we step back from something we call
it caution When somebody else step back we say he’s a coward
So this courage business is a very relative thing What is courage What is not courage The question is just this
If you there are some people who are capable of walking into situations without knowing a thing about it Okay
But whether they can walk out of it or not is a big question mark
Again I’m going back to the same thing If you had absolute clarity about everything
you would know how to act in that situation or whatever that is
And you would largely know the consequence of that action If it is a a
calculated effort and you took the action it may succeed it may not succeed
because there are many factors that you could have overlooked But if you had enough clarity the chances of success
are much much better But if you just have this vum in you too much
okay and uh you took steps because you’re
courageous when things don’t work others will see that it was the stupidest thing to do
So you must understand you will be attributed with all kinds of qualities positive qualities as long as
you’re successful The moment you fail people will see the
same things that they said was courageous They will say after five years he’s an utter fool What a thing he
has done to himself and to everybody So the important thing is
the purpose of human action is success It doesn’t matter whether it’s a big
thing or a small thing that you do If you don’t torture the children
uh if you
if you take any kind of action which produces positive result then people say
you’re intelligent All right Maybe you’re not Maybe it was just chance But
they will say you’re intelligent because most of the world is not able to
recognize anything other than success It is not the best way to live But that
is the reality Today all over the world all kinds of
universities especially in United States they want me to be there They asking me to be their professor I said I awarded
university all my life Now you think I’ll get trapped in it
So this is not because they see who I am
35 years ago when I simply sat down in a place eyes closed people thought I was a
fool 50 years ago when I simply sat under a tree or upon a tree without
doing anything with my eyes closed my family thought I’m an utter idiot What is happening to this boy He’s lost his
mind They thought my father actually thought I need psych psychological evaluation because he’s simply sitting
not doing anything but this is what we have done to life
that we are too much resultoriented not processor oriented if our processes are
right results will come but because we are in such a hurry for results we are
too resultoriented because of that we build these kind of cities which no process only I built your how I
built my house you built your house everybody appreciated clapped their hands and said oh he has gotten his own
house it’s a it’s a disaster for the city but I got my own house all right so
this excessively successoriented society is dangerous because we will miss all
the processes we’ll bypass processes and do things ad hoc it may succeed Ed see
anything will succeed 50% of the time even if you don’t know what the hell you’re doing
Yes if you’re playing cricket with your eyes closed also if you swing the bat you may hit it All right So 50% of the time lot
of things may happen by chance but that is not what young people should depend on You must build a process within
yourself which is reliable It doesn’t matter somebody approves it disapproves it whether the world approves it or
disapproves it whether it appreciates or depreciates it doesn’t matter You built a solid process for yourself that it’s
always always reliable for you if you do this If there’s an opportunity in the world
maybe it’ll become a big success Otherwise maybe it will be something like that But you will have the beauty
of always standing on firm ground within yourself never struggling with anything
that happens to you in your life This is what you must build Success in the world will come depending upon what the world
is ready for I was the same person
40 years ago But at that time everybody thought I’m no good But today they think I’m a great
mystic yogi nonsense whatever Okay Because not because they experience who
I am Because everywhere it’s recognized they are also clapping their hands that’s all So what the flock says it
doesn’t matter Have you built an appropriate process which has absolute
integrity within itself and clarity is the basis of your process If you have
done this it doesn’t matter whether the world accepts you or not You are successful
because as a human being you’re successful you are successful in the world or not depends on what the world
is ready for right now So uh yeah
why are you clapping Okay
Near-death experience is a phenomenon by which we hear that uh the memories of
previous births are awakened and uh people gain extra sensory perceptions As
a person since you have undergone a near-death experience can you please when did I die No like uh we read that
you a snake bit you and you had Oh that was not near death So okay Then can you
share what near-death experience is to us and how it awakens consciousness
within us If you have uh
anybody from Vanasi here Oh only one
There is something called as yatana Have you heard about this
This is when a person are you ready for something like this
This is a management school I thought Hello Are you all interested in this question
Only the older people are raising their hands because they’re near death one way or the other
because uh why I’m asking this question whether we should speak about it or not is
aspects like this about our life need to be properly looked at If we if I
try to give you a two-minute answer it’ll become frivolous and you’ll make wrong conclusions
Either you will believe it or disbelieve it That’s no good But it’s in the intrinsic nature of the
way life is built See I’m sorry I’m not getting your name I’m sir
lot of wealth out of the three qualities What are you virina sir Okay
Now I thought those three qualities you got here I was wondering
see you are the person that you are You are different from this person What is
it What is the difference What is it that makes the difference The kind of
experiences that I have had memory Essentially memory right
So your memory is your person Your memory is not just what you
remember consciously Do you remember how your great great great grandmother looked like No But her
nose is sitting on your face Yes or no Your body remembers her No
Your body remembers how your forefathers looked a million years ago So there is
genetic memory there is evolutionary memory there is elemental memory there is atomic memory and there is karmic
memory and there is articulate and inarticulate memories like this There are many levels of memory In yoga we
identify eight forms of memory These all these memories put together
you are the person that you are All of them are interplaying with each other You may not be conscious what is kicking
in right now at this stage in your life It may so happen I’m not saying
essentially for you but for anybody You’re 18 You look at your mother or father and say no I’m never going to be
like that All right But you become 45 you will see you will
walk like your mother You will sit like your mother You’ll talk like your mother This happens to any number of people Ask
the older lot because the genetic memory is
overpowering your conscious memory Unless you have consciously done something to yourself you will see the
genetic memory and the karmic memory will overpower everything that you are
doing consciously Unless you have created a certain level of awareness within you that you have distanced
yourself from your genetics In this culture there are processes if somebody
dies we are doing various karmas from vanasi
kas and kmas are being done every year first 11 days and then every year this
is not in memory of them this is to distance yourself from their memory
we are trying to keep a genetic distance from their memory because if you allow
their memory to function within you will not have a life of your own Unknowingly
your mother your grandmother your father your grandfather all of them will start living through you If you want to be a
fresh life you must distance yourself When they’re alive we love them we respect them everything fine The moment
they’re dead we want to distance ourselves from them This is a very conscious culture But unfortunately
people think yearly once they’re overeating thinking they’re doing this in memory of their father know this
entire process was created to create a distance from the dead Someone else
somewhere far away said 2,000 years ago when he said come follow me when people
said my father if somebody said my father is dead he said leave the dead to the dead
it looks most uncompassionate statement but he’s saying something very profound
when he says leave the dead to the dead if you don’t leave the dead dead they
will live through you this is the nature of life so only a human being is able to leave
the dead to the dead For all other creatures anyway it will play through them Even in the human being if they’re
not conscious it will play through them So this phenomenal amount of memory which is incredible levels of memory
because see if you what do you like mango or banana Mango Mango If you eat a
mango it goes inside and becomes a woman If he eats a mango it goes inside
becomes a man If a cow eats a mango it goes inside and becomes a cow Very smart
mango you think No there is memory here Whatever enters
this body it is make sure it becomes masculine There is memory here which
makes it see just because you started eating not mangoes from Tamil Nadu you
started eating mangoes from Uttar Pradesh your nose will not grow your complexion will not change It will not
happen It doesn’t matter what is the intake There is absolute memory within you which determines how it should be
transformed So this memory is a possibility It makes you who you are At
the same time memory is also a boundary It will not let you cross that See I
remember this much means what does it mean I’m living within that memory boundary Isn’t it So your genetic memory
your evolutionary memory and every other kind of memory especially the karmic memory is a possibility which allows you
to do many things unthinking If you you know many things you can do you know how
to eat rasam rice unthinking isn’t it You ask uh here there are some Chinese
le sitting here You ask her to eat rasam rice Whatever she does it will spill all over the place It will not go into her
mouth because there is memory Simply you can eat like that But somebody else tries
such a simple act it won’t work She will eat with two sticks You try it’ll go and hit the ceiling
Because all this memory is built in I’m not only talking about memory that you
built by practice There is memory which is beyond practice Like you will walk in
a certain way without knowing why If we look at you you are walking half a mile away If we look at the way you swing
your hand we know it’s you There are 7.3 billion people But you have a unique way
of swinging your arm isn’t it So the memory is built into you It is both a
possibility and a limitation This is the entire goal of yoga to go in the
direction where you touch an intelligence within you which is beyond memory because beyond memory means
beyond boundaries also How do you know somebody here this is your friend and this is somebody that you do not know
that is your enemy that is a person you like and that’s a person you don’t like How do you know Just your memory isn’t
it So all your boundaries are drawn by your memory So boundary the memory is
both a possibility and a limitation So when the moment of leaving this body
comes don’t believe all this Okay You must experience it
When the moment of leaving this body comes the memory goes into an overdrive
It is not about past lives or whatever This is called as baviatana to conduct this consciously That’s why
people who are on the who are near death or people who are become old enough and they think they must die at some point
and they know they will die They all move to kashi at one time because they
want to conduct this bayana consciously so that this they can become free from
this memory If you become free from his memory memory means repetitiveness If
you become free from your memory all repetitiveness is gone From compulsiveness to consciousness you have
moved So this is being interpreted in the west in so many crazy ways
Generally these books are written everybody’s claiming they had near death because those books sell well In America
if you want to become a millionaire you just have to say “I almost died.” And I
floated and they see angels This is all cultural nonsense
You will see Shiva Parvati floating they will see angels This is all cultural stuff
But memory will go on overdrive for sure for everybody
Thank you Sguru Next we would like to have rapid fire questions We would like to have some short and sweet answers
from you Okay I was not sweet all this time Sorry You are
First question What is the best gift What is the best gift
to give to somebody or to receive Any [Applause]
give one for both Huh Give one for both I’m sorry And one to Oh
Clarity is the best gift to receive
and the best to give also because once you have clarity you will see it is of highest value to you and you would love
to have people around you also who have some clarity
So even if you give clarity to other people it is not a gift to them It’s a gift to yourself because having people
with some clarity around you is the greatest gift that you can have living in the world
Biggest sorrow I don’t know cuz I have never had one
And uh can I make it a little dirty Okay Because you wanted it sweet
See what is a joy what is a sorrow is completely your psychological drama
If you are the director of your psychological drama would you want a
joyful drama or a miserable drama Joyful Joyful
If you have left your drama uncontrolled then so many things are happening and you think they are real Your sorrow and
your joy both made up by you So if you’re making it up consciously you enjoy tragedies Please enjoy what’s my
problem But whether you go through misery or
through joy it’s your psychological drama Isn’t it Your psychological drama
should be conducted by you and you and only you Nobody else but you must direct
your psychological drama Isn’t it Other people may decide a few things that
happen around us Nobody should decide what happens within me The moment somebody can decide what happens within
you you are into a deep level of slavery
Waste of time H something that is waste of time Oh
there is no waste of time Some people like to do a lot of things Some people don’t like to do anything But both for
action and inaction there is a consequence If they know the consequence and they’re
doing it I bow down to them But if they don’t know the consequence or they’re
doing nothing then we have to pinch them a little bit
Never miss Never miss dash Never miss life
[Applause] That’s the only thing you can have and
the only thing you can miss The only thing you can have is life here There’s nothing else And the only thing
you can miss also is life There is nothing else you can really have See right now I drink water I think I’m
having water No I’m drinking life Isn’t it having a conversation This is life
Either you can have life or miss life So don’t miss life That’s all you got What
is the toughest thing to do Toughest thing to do Toughest thing to do You can
make anything very tough for yourself or you can do anything playfully If you if
you become too serious about who you are then everything becomes difficult If you
carry yourself lightly then everything is with ease
There is nothing really tough or easy It is the way people experience it that
something becomes very tough or something becomes a joyful process If you make light of yourself life will
never sit heavy upon your heart It will be light But you think too much of yourself everything will become
difficult Sitting standing somebody looked at you like this so much difficulty Isn’t it Somebody did not
look at you so much difficulty This is because you have made yourself
bigger than what you are You have ideas about yourself Exaggerated ideas about
yourself See this is the biggest problem with humanity You okay It’s not short enough
See this cosmos in this vast cosmos
This solar system is a speck In that spec
planet earth is a microspec In that microspec Chennai is a super microspec
In that super microspec IIT campus is a super super super
microspec In that you are a big man This is a serious problem
It’s a serious lack of perspective Now in this everything will become tough
If you understand you’re a microscopic nothing here then it’s very easy to pass
through this life Whatever we can do we will do What we can do we will do What
we cannot do we will not do That’s all there is to life But sguru have you never had a moment of
re uh what remorse or sadness ever I told you I direct my drama once in a
way If I like you know I I I used to uh write scripts for in my college days I
used to modernize Shakespearean drama for today with today’s language because
most people wouldn’t get Shakespearean language so I would rewrite it for with
modern language doing our own wacky thing with Shakespeare
So uh you if you want to enjoy a tragedy you can enjoy one
but I have not allowed this I have I’ve kept the privilege of what happens
within me to myself I have not given this to anybody because of that
what happens within me happens the way I want it what happens around me doesn’t
happen the way I want it most of the time people wonderful people around me
striving hard to make it happen the way Sguru wants but it doesn’t happen that
way because what I want is always climbing notches if they do well I’ll
climb up if they do better I’ll climb up further so it’ll never happen situations in my life will never happen the way I
want it because I keep ramping it up all the time they’re doing great things but I keep
ramping it up so always I’m disappointed with what’s happening but joyfully disappointed
Thank you Sataru I’m sure many from the audience are looking forward to ask you some questions So with your permission I
would like to hand it over to the audience
Hello Hello I have two clarifications from you Sgur First thing is India from
time immemorial has been producing lot of philosophers no social reformers like
you really then how can I say how can I evaluate you that you don’t belong to
Ram Rraim category that’s first question
and my second question is my second question is let me finish oneh
Pardon Let me finish one question Pardon sir Let me finish one question
Okay You don’t like the answer Just a question Look at after I not get chance
but thing will finish it
So uh you said uh India has produced many
philosophers and social rep re reformers from time immemorial
I think you got it completely wrong on that note because India never produced
social reformers or philosophers Philosophy is one thing we always shunned This is a land that
always focused on nurturing human consciousness
This is why we look like such a big chaos but still we manage
The entire world wonders how the hell does India functions
Yes we are like a swarm of beasts We are going all over the place but still going
in one direction because in this land nobody could ever
give us a moral code Even when so-called divine entities came
all they got was a debate Yes
When Shiva came his wife Parvati asked a thousand questions
Entire Shiva Sutra is full of questions and questions and questions He can’t give a commandment and say this is it He
has to explain This is not a philosophy This is a seeking
This has been always a land of seekers When Krishna came Arjuna his dearest friend how many questions Endless amount
of questions Nobody could ever give a commandment or a moral code in this country because
here we believed the best thing is to stir up your humanity not your morality
by fixing a moral code Today it looks like everything is in order but tomorrow
people will find a way to subvert the moral code and do their own thing anyway
The best way to bring about a certain order in the
society is to stir up one’s humanity But if you give a moral code it’s a one
day’s job You can carve it on the rock and say this is it forever But if you want to stir up humanity you can’t do it
to a crowd You have to do one at a time One at a time It’s a lifelong commitment to people around you
about I don’t know what you know about that uh I don’t know what to say about
him but at the same time
I want to tell you this this country has produced the most phenomenal sages
sages with incisiveness ess of mind and consciousness that if you come after
10,000 years still it makes sense what they said many thousand years ago
you are not looking at them right now you have unfortunately come to a stage
where your idea of a sage is Ram rahim because you have a silly idea of secularism he exploited it with Ram
Raheim your idea of secularism is Amarak Akbar Anton so he became Ram Rahim I
don’t know why he’s not Robert als also he did not add [Applause]
So see this is what I said
today because a court has convicted him Everybody is standing up and saying this is the most evil man The first day I saw
him on a news channel the obscinity of the aesthetics itself I
said why is even a national news channel showing this kind of thing Obviously if
you pay money this whatever god business what is a movie of what He made one
movie now No he made a movie right Ram rahim made
a movie What is that Messenger of God Ah
when he made this movie then only you should have known the moment you saw the man Now because the court has convicted
all of you are doing this I said it the first day This is a joke being played
upon our society You must stand up and say something But no all the news channels all the intellectuals everybody
clapped their hand because they like the garish nature of what he’s doing But today because a court is convicted they
are saying this This must go because first of all this is the thing
When the court was to give a judgment their people went about creating arson
around the court Why are they doing this because they believe and many times
unfortunately it’s worked this way that they can force the hand of law with
violence or some force on the street That’s the reason why they’re doing it
Similarly many news channels are also believing by creating a certain force of
opinion they can force the hand of law This must stop if we want to become a
lawabiding nation Our opinion should not be bigger than the law
Law should be the ultimate thing So here one thing is law which is between you
and me because law is about how all of us can function together in the society
But another thing is how I am within myself How I am within myself must happen by evoking my humanity not by
fixing morality on me But if you want to evoke humanity we
need many people who are dedicated to that I think it was very beautifully put when Adish Shankara spoke about it He
said “Every one of you have tasted a mango but all of you have not planted a mango tree because 10 people planted
mango trees Thousand people are eating mangoes The sweetness of mango they know So these people those 10 people for
every thousand were there in the past unfortunately they’re missing So here we are at a a kind of a flux in the society
right now where we have no morality and where we have nobody to stir up our consciousness not enough at least So you
are facing the kind of dilemma you’re facing All kinds of people are cropping up and filling that space Just because
you found one Ram Raheem Don’t try to paint the entire clan black because they
don’t belong to the same clan You must understand every sage every sea every yogi who came He came absolutely as an
individual Maybe he was spawned by a certain tradition But when he stood up
he stood up on his own dent on his own clarity of perception Those scholars who
quote scriptures and other things are different But every yogi every mystic
every sage and seer who came always stood on their own clarity and people
who saw the clarity went to them Those who did not did not go to them How Ram Rahim things become popular It is like a
cinema thing Okay It’s like somebody becomes a star simply because of some
commercial movie or whatever they do And the same thing is unfortunately happening in this sphere of life also
because people are so starved out There is no sense anywhere They’re trying to make sense out of something because we
don’t have a moral code because we don’t have one book to follow And it’s a great thing we don’t have one book to follow
or fight for But at the same time there is a big chassum in the country There’s no
morality and there is no consciousness If consciousness had to be stirred up there is lot of work to do If moral code
has to be given it’s very easy 10 things we can write down and say this is it Anyway nobody will follow it Outside
they will pretend within themselves they do what they have to do So today it
happens Unfortunately I’m walking on the street Indian people Chennai people they will
say show to their children and say see Santa Claus
Okay what’s happened to your brains You did not say see Augustimony You did not
say see he looks like Washista You did not say he looks like this yogi or that yogi You say Santa Claus because
the British left 70 years ago But your brains went with them It’s time you
retrieve that
One more clarification sir Sorry I am proud to say that I Madras is the only
organization I in the in our country which is offering spirituality and management You know I’m
really proud of it you know proud of this IIT and uh when the gentleman asked you a question that how to build up the
courage I expected a straightforward answer from you but he gave something different you know that is courage if
you work in tune with nature will automatically get courage that type of answer spiritual answer I expected but
he gave something different can you explain please
if I do only what you expect Why would I be needed here [Applause]
and tell me right now daytime I’m asking the girls
daytime you’re walking either in the campus or in the Chennai streets where
you can see everything clearly there is clarity in your vision do you need courage
No no Night 1:00 in the morning you’re walking back to the campus It’s dark now You
need courage Why Because there is no clarity That’s all [Applause]
So but doesn’t that also depend upon what I’m seeing I am seeing But what if I’m seeing something that
even if you’re not seeing anything the more you don’t see the more fearful you become the more courage need for courage
comes isn’t it but if you’re seeing things very clearly this total clarity
of vision there is no need for courage because clarity will carry you across it’s my vision my blessing for all the
young people in this country that it is your clarity that carries you across in
your life not stupid courage or confidence [Applause]
Excuse me sir What is your belief of God What if I don’t have one
What is your belief of God I said what if I don’t have a belief
We should if you do a mistake what you will do
I’ll correct it If you can’t if you are unable to correct
if you are unable to correct I know some things can’t be fixed I’ve learned that
much with this much age There are certain things I can’t fix sometimes
Namaskarum satguru Uh you said intelligent people do what they like Uh and genius people do just what is
necessary but it’s not always clear just what is necessary So how does one know
or is enlightenment a prerequisite for knowing if that is the case so how do we
get out of the catch 22 situation that one is in thank you have you read catch
22 seen the movie at least no
you’re another generation in our generation there was literally nobody who did not read catch 22
so anyway Okay let me not go into that That’s a piece of literature that you must read because
in any situation if you allow yourself you can be confused in any situation
In any situation if you willing you can bring some clarity that clarity may not
be absolute but at least in a limited way you can bring clarity work through that and then see what is the next level
to work upon So about
intelligence doing what they like I meant
see if you’re doing even what you don’t like
this is a very unintelligent way of existence isn’t it Because right now if you sit here and
doing something that you don’t like inevitably you’re going to suffer every moment of your life
Is there anything more unintelligent that you have decided that every moment of your life should be misery
So if you have some working intelligence then you make sure you do the things
that you like But if really if your intelligence flowers beyond likes and dislikes I’m
saying this should I go into it technically Why how it can happen
I thought I thought you were not engineers You’re only managers
You’ve been through engineering Oh okay
See there are four In English language when we say mind it’s just one thing
In yoga we look at human intelligence as 16 parts
These 16 parts we can categorize as four segments
These four segments are buddhi aankara manus and chitta
Buddhi means your intellect I’m going to ask you one question All of
you must say yes or no I’m going to bless you with that Would you like your in uh buddhi or your
intellect to be sharp or blunt Okay
So it is essentially a cutting instrument If you have a sharp intellect you can
dissect everything that you see and kind of figure out what it is about
Dissection is one way of learning about things If you give this flower to a
scientist first thing is he will open it up and he will understand the structure
of the flower and various aspects of the flower But one thing is he will miss the
flower completely But with dissection we have understood
and learned many many things So if I really want to know you I should
dissect you You’re not willing Even the frog that you dissected in high
school it was not willing But you still dissected because you thought it’s a great education But the frog did not think so
So dissection is one way of learning your intellect As you said you want it
sharp because it’s a sculpel that can cut through things and show you reveal
certain things to you But if you want to put things together
you need to sue something Suppose you want to stitch something and you still use a knife
Now you leave everything in tatters This is the main struggle of modern societies
because they’re employing their intellect to handle everything in their life If you employ just your intellect
to handle everything you will see every aspect of your life will become a mess
because intellect is a specific tool to be used for a certain purpose There was
a time you know when I was criss-crossing India on my motorcycle
just some fortune because of this rally of rally for rivers once again I’m on
the motorcycle in some of the cities not in Chennai because it’s very serious
place so when I was criss crisscrossing on the
motorcycle I I never trusted any mechanic I always fix my own engine my own things because you are on the road
and you want a reliable machine But sometimes if you stopped in a local mechanic
somewhere there were some these days things have changed There were some mechanic shops
He’s actually running a professional place All he’s got is a chisel and a hammer
These are only two tools he has With this he opens everything and fixes everything Only thing is afterwards
nobody else can open it or close it because he used his chisel and hammer on everything
So this is like that right now Our modern education systems have become such that intellect is the only
dimension of intelligence that we are employing With this you can cut everything but you can’t put things
together You will not know life at all It looks
like you know you know about it but you cannot know it You will not experience
the beauty of being alive If you intellectually analyze everything you will see the parts of it You can cut it
into million parts and you can cut this flower into million parts and know many things that a butterfly does not know
But you do not know the joy of sitting on the flower like a butterfly or seeing the butterfly this flower or smelling
the flower or experiencing the flower as a piece of life that will not be there
because intellect is essentially a cutting instrument Behind this is what is called as aankara which usually
unfortunately people think is ego It’s not ego it’s your identity Your identity
is your limitation Your identity decides how your intellect functions Right now
let us say you identify yourself strongly I am a man Now the way you think is always about
your masculinity Now you say I’m a woman Now your intellect functions only to
protect that identity Or you say I’m an Indian or a Pakistani or I’m this or a that thousand different identities of
cast creed this that rich poor all kinds Whatever you identify with your
intellect will only serve that identity You won’t even know what you’re doing You think you’re doing the right thing
Everybody thinks you’re a fool but you think you’re the right thing because your identity makes your intellect
function that way So in this culture we evolved a thing that before we give
education to a child first thing is we must bring a universal identity A
brahasmi we taught them This means a cosmic identity because before before
empowering somebody with education and knowledge they must have as large an
identity as possible because small identities are the basis of all evil and all crime
See I want you to understand this If suppose I I’ll take the worst example
because I’m always known to take this risks Let’s take the worst example Adolf
Hitler Suppose Adolf Hitler instead of having a
limited identity had a global identity What a fantastic leader he would have been Yes or no You don’t want to say yes
because you’re scared I want you to look at this It is a limited identity which is making that
man do such horrendous things Every crime every tyrant every nonsense that we have done on this planet is a
consequence of limited identity Isn’t it I am Indian you are Pakistani That’s why even if I don’t know you I can kill you
I don’t know a thing about you But I want you dead for some reason Because my identity is like this So it is this
identity different levels of identity that the more limited our identity more
tyrannical our actions are Man as efficient as Adolf Fitla if he had a
identity with the whole humanity What a great leader we would have had
But his identity is limited And see what horrendous thing his efficiency did
Yes or no I wish we had leaders who had that level of efficiency but with a
larger identity It’s a very risky thing to say but I’m saying this because we must understand
what you think is evil is seeping out of your limited identification
All that’s evil all that’s crime on this planet is a consequence of limited
identification That’s all it is So this identity has not been worked at all in
this so-called modern societies In ancient societies in this country we always worked on the identity of the
person first before we empowered them with education A cosmic identity you must have so that your intellect does
not work against somebody Your intelligence should not become a detrimental factor in the world That’s
important isn’t it Right now you just see the highest level of science and technology What is it used for The first
use is always military use isn’t it Why Because of limited identity So
before empowering a child with education and knowledge first thing is we must fix
his ahankara What kind of a hankara he has which we have not done for which we are paying a price As humanity gets more
and more empowered with technology you will see more and more pain will create to each other because limited
identification The next dimension of intelligence is referred to as manus Manus means
it is a silo of memory This is what we were talking some time ago Eight forms of memory are there in this I will not
go into it once again But your intellect is absolutely useless if it is not
connected to the memory If I wipe out your memory even if you have a very sharp intellect there is nothing you can
do Isn’t it It’s only empowered by this memory and the type of identity that you
have will connect you to the memory in a particular way If your identity is
universal it will connect you to the memory in one way If your identity is limited it will connect you to the
memory in a completely different way The same memory will function in a
completely different way and find action in a totally different dimension simply because identity is different These are
three dimensions of intelligence which normally in function for most people The
fourth dimension of intelligence is referred to as chitta Chitta means it’s a dimension of intelligence which is not
unsullied by memory There is no iota of memory in this It’s pure intelligence
If you touch this dimension of intelligence in the yogic culture
very mischievously it is said like this If you touch your chitta God will become
your slave Everything works for you
You can play with life but life will work for you The source of life will work for you because you have touched a
dimension of intelligence which is beyond memory Why is it important is
your individuality comes only because of your limited memory So in yogic culture
we have always been thought to identify with our ignorance never with our knowledge
If you whatever amount of knowledge you have gathered It is very limited
compared to this cosmic space Isn’t it What is there in this creation It
doesn’t matter what kind of a manager you are what kind of an engineer you are What you know is very minuscule but your
ignorance is boundless If you identify with your ignorance you will never go against anybody If you identify with
your knowledge if I have a different kind of knowledge you will be naturally against me But you are identified with
your ignorance you are never against anybody And it’s a boundless space Is your ignorance limited
Hello It’s limitless isn’t it But is your knowledge limited
Doesn’t matter if you read all the libraries on the planet you are still a very limited knowledge So the way we are
employing human intelligence is if there were four wheels in a car you drive only on one wheel this going to be very
stressful and nobody can be with you This is why more intellectual you get
the more you can’t get along with anybody this happening
and the more intellectual you get not intelligent the more intellectual you get the longer your face becomes you
can’t smile smile is a big effort I was speaking to a group of people at the
Princeton University there were 250 people and they were all
only three four lively faces were there then I looked at them and said what’s happened to all of you All these people
over 30 years of age why are they carrying such long faces One lady stood up and said “They’re all
married.” I thought people are getting married to
multiply their joy If they’re getting married to multiply their misery there has to be a law against it Then I have
to rally for
Yes some of the girls never got a chance Please
sguru you told about clarity If you go from the literature of self-help
everyone talks about self-belief but in a small amount of time after some period
that self-belief turns to ignorance So how do you do we develop conscious
self-belief through uh any process
Okay that question is a little tricky You said selfbelief leads to
ignorance but then you’re asking again how to develop self-belief consciously because uh if self-belief is on a longer
period without consciousness it converts to ignorance because we feel blind and say are you for real Are you real
Sorry Are you real I’m asking Subjective say yes
I am asking do you exist Yes Yes No doubt about it Only problem
is you do not know the nature of your existence If you had doubt about your existence itself that is a different
level of problem Okay that’s a different thing But now
you know that you exist Only thing is you do not know the nature of your existence Please sit down
And uh for a long time people have been saying I believe in God
but from there we have descended to a place I believe in myself
Believe in believing in anything is bad enough Believing in yourself is a total
disaster Because you must understand the word
belief It’s all connected to this uh courage confidence stuff
See how many of you believe how many of you believe that you have two hands All such
people just raise one hand please One will do One will do One will do
Okay Do you believe that you have two hands or do you know that you have two hands
You know that you have two hands isn’t it Suppose somebody starts an overwhelming argument with you that you
have no hands and if their argument becomes too overwhelming one slap in the face
He knows you got hands But you believe in God You believe in
something else So many other things you believe Why Because you’re still not straight enough to admit what I do not
know as I do not know I do not know is a tremendous possibility
Only when you see I do not know the possibility of knowing
and the seeking towards that knowing and the pursuit of wanting to know will
begin to happen within you and the possibility of knowing can become realized one day if your pursuit is
right But everything that you do not know you believe
You can call this belief or you can just call it Okay because you’re
making up things People do not know what the hell is
happening within themselves around themselves but they know the entire geography of heaven
I don’t understand if they know the place so well and it’s so fantastic why they’re not gone
Yes See they’re always talking about a fantastic place elsewhere They must be
gone Why are they waiting here No No because when it comes to real
things they know it’s all But on a daily basis they carry it on Can
you all of you young people can you come to this level of sincerity What I know I
know What I do not know I do not know Can you do this to yourself
If you can’t be straight with anybody else at least this with this one person
be absolutely straight Believe me life pays off in a huge way
life will pay you in a very huge way because you’re simply absolutely straight with yourself
about what kind of professions you will take I don’t know how many things you have to do with other people I will leave that to you But at least with this
one person you must be absolutely absolutely straight If this one thing you do you will see life will give you
dividends that other people have not dreamt of Most people do not know what
is integrity They’re innocent of integrity because they go on doing this
all the time What they know they know What they do not know they believe
Why don’t you see What I know I know What I do not know I do not know Is this okay Hello
Hello Now not only believing what is up there Now what is inside You better know
what is inside Why do you believe this What is this thing about I believe in
myself This is very American stuff I believe in myself Why should you believe
in yourself You should know yourself isn’t it Hello
We will take one last question Good evening sir So uh my question is
where are you ma’am Okay Uh sir uh what do you think of um the
proximity that religion and um good work or good faith have in our country in the
sense that if someone turns up at my parents’ place for example and he
affiliates himself with a religious organization rather than um a just a
normal secular or neighborless organization my parents are more likely to give him money for charity or
whatever if he belongs to that And um secondly do you think this has something
to do with our tendency to not question authority figures as a whole Like ever since I’ve been a child I’ve been um
told to keep my voice down or to keep quiet when I question something or
question an authority figure Say uh
you must first of all understand a question A question is essentially a
tool to dig deeper to know something That’s why we question
So you must look into yourself and see because I don’t want to make a judgment about your home situation
You must look into yourself and see are you asking a question to know or is your
question a way of making a commentary on somebody else This is something you must be clear
about As far as I’m concerned a question is a tool to dig deeper and know
something more than what we know right now If you want to make a comment make a comment
Why are you making a comment in the form of a question Don’t do that because the sanctity of a question will go away A
question is a tremendous thing To come up with the right question it will take a lot of intelligence
Yes To come up with the right question which will take you to the next step of
your life takes a certain amount of consideration So do not sully the
question Questioning should not be seen as arrogance Questioning is seen as arrogance because people are using
questions to make comments So within yourself you clear that and if
your question is a genuine question you must definitely ask the question
because a question is a progress that humanity makes This is why I said all
the scriptures in this culture are full of questions No commandments
You must see the kind of questions Parvati is asking Shiva Endless amount of questions Even today in 21st century
most wives would not dare ask questions like that Yes that is the kind of questioning
she’s doing Because this is a genuine question She’s asking because she wants
to know She’s not asking because she wants to comment about him She’s asking because she genuinely wants to know And
he sees that honors that respects that and answers every question to the best possible way and certain questions which
cannot be answered verbally He puts her into process of experience
So I do not know who comes uh to your home and what is the situation
but just because you said what why can’t we be normal and secular who said
secular is normal Let’s understand the word secular
Secular means everybody has the right to do what they want and we respect that
Secular does not mean you we give up everything that belongs to this culture and do what the English did and we think
we are secular No I want you to understand
I want you to understand even today in United States of America or UK
from where we think we imported our democracy even today without taking the name of
their god whatever god they believe in nothing is done President takes oath in
the name of God Not in India In India we take oath in the name of the constitution
This is a this is a incident that happened that
Adwani shared in public He was saying
when he was just an MP and all the MPs were invited to UK
and one of the events was a dinner with the queen
Adwani was sitting next to Sidat Shankar who is no more I think
and everybody has assembled queen is sat down prime minister sitting down dinner is served but everybody’s waiting
So Siddhar Shankar is hungry He asked Adwani what’s happening what are we waiting for Queen is here prime minister
is here Why don’t we eat So Adwani told him this is not India This is UK The
priest has to come and bless the food Till then you can’t eat it
I’m saying we are misunderstanding secularism as a way of become irreverent
towards everything No secularism does not mean that Secularism means we respect everybody’s
way of life We don’t think our way is superior to somebody else’s ways But we
choose a certain way because we think it’s better But if somebody has to prove that is
better we are always willing to debate endlessly There’s an entire culture in Tamil Nadu where Tamil Nadu’s population
and especially the king shifted from Buddhism to Janism Janism to Shaism from
Shism to Janism again back to Shism depending upon the sages of the time
they sat down and debated in the debate if the Jans convinced that
this is the way best way to do it this will lead to better life they all converted
and next another generation another sage came and that sage proved being on the Shiva way of life is the best way to do
it everybody converted back to that I think this is fantastic this is what should happen What really makes sense
today We should all do that If somebody shows us better sense tomorrow we will do that Why are we stuck with this or
that Because you fixed your identity That’s the whole thing isn’t it If your identity was not fixed you would always
be looking for what is most sensible So just because whoever that man or woman who comes to your house maybe they
dressed in a particular way they belong to a certain creed or whatever what you should do is
you should listen Do they make sense or don’t make sense Even if they don’t make
sense to you maybe they’re making sense in a way that you don’t understand So
that is when you must ask questions questions not to denigrate them
Questions because you’re longing to know what is the truth If you are clear that
your only goal is that you want to know the truth about life you want to constantly move from confusion to
clarity If this is very very clear to you this is all you intend to do You are
not interested whether somebody is right or wrong You want to constantly move to higher and higher levels of clarity and
truth within yourself Then you can question anybody you want You can ask me questions No problem
[Applause]
Namaskar sguru Uh actually I want to know what is the duration of woman birth cycle
What is that Duration of women birth cycle and how does it affect the uh next word
the good karma and bad karma How the sh records the bad karma and good karma
Where are you
Oh Oh okay Because somebody announced that was the last question
Okay Sorry for that No no no please Yeah So I want to know what is the duration of women birth cycle and how it does
affect the next birth like people say the good karma will affect in next birth and bad karma will affect in next birth
Well and how was record that bad karma and good karma and like you gave the
example of a kid like uh in starting itself the baby should baby have the uh
ego kind of thing right So how it can happen without teaching the ego this thing or something like that
Oh okay Say uh
let’s understand this word karma Karma means action
Is it true as you sit here your physical body is doing some action You must say
yes or no Yes Hello Yes Is it true your mental action also is
happening Yes Some level of emotional action also happening Some level of
energy also in activity So there are four dimensions of karma that you’re performing every moment of your life
Both in wakefulness and sleep Four dimensions of karma are functioning
Now depending on what type of karma you’re performing right now Karma need not necessarily mean you have to go and
do something you sitting here what kind of thought process you have does it not determine how your evening will be
forget about next life is it true today how you thought and what kind of
emotions you went through will affect how you are tomorrow will it will it or
will it not it will so your karma won’t wait till next lifetime you assuming too
many things that you will have one more life without assumptions If you look at it
every action that we do the residual impact of that remains within us Or in
other words when you perform physical mental emotional and energy activity you are
unconsciously building a software of your own This both helps you and restricts you On
one level because of certain type of thought and emotion and activity you become geared to be able to do certain
type of activity effortlessly At the same time that also becomes your limitation So every karma that you
perform let’s understand the word karma Karma means action Nobody can live here
without action The moment you are born action has begun Isn’t it Till you fall dead action is on on and on Either
conscious action or unconscious action is the only question but action is always on From today morning since you
woke up till this moment How much of your mental karma are you
conscious about What do you think is a percentage Believe me it’s well below 1%
So when 99% of the karma is unconscious obviously you think life is accidental
If you enhance the conscious karma from 1% to let’s say 3% Suddenly you feel
like you’ve been liberated because so many things are absolutely clear within you So what you need to strive for is
not worry about what will happen to you in your next life when you don’t even know whether there’s a next life Whether
there’s a next life or not is just your belief The reality is right now you’re alive
and the quality of your life is essentially decided by these four kmas
What kind of thought what kind of emotion what kind of physical action what kind of energy action is it not
determining the quality of your life Hello Yes So your karma is taking effect right
now Not in next life Right now it is taking effect You are an engineer means
what That is the karma you performed 5 years You did karma now you have it Some
people did not bother with the karma They are not They are something else
So when you were sitting and doing the bad karma of studying for your examination
somebody who was partying thought you were stupid Yes But after 10 20 years
life shows up in a completely different way Then people will realize oh I didn’t
I did the wrong karma Now I should do the right karma He did the right karma So he got this I’m saying if you are
conscious if you are conscious of how your thought should be how your emotion should be how
your action should be This is not by some moral code This is by the fundamental intrinsic nature of the
human being This is what I’m saying is the difference between morality and consciousness Not because somebody told
you “Thou shalt not kill this person And I’m not killing him right now It never occurred to me that I have to kill him
Such such teachings are not relevant to me because it never occurred to me that I have to rob what she’s wearing that I
have to kill this man or I have to do something else to this person This never occurred to me because I kept my human
humanity up all the time If you let your humanity sleep your memory sinks back
into your evolutionary levels and you start behaving like a beast But unfortunately with an excessive
intelligence for a beast if you had the same intelligence that a
snake has or a alligator or a crocodile has
you wouldn’t be so dangerous You’re okay We know how to deal with you But the problem is with this level of
intelligence which evolution has given you now if you sink back to the level of
unconscious that a crocodile is that whatever it sees it wants to snap Now you become quite a terrible possibility
So because evolution has pushed you up it is time that you consciously keep yourself higher than your intelligence
You understand You must keep yourself above your intelligence When you keep yourself above your intellect or your
buddhi then we say you are a Buddha that means you have become a dada to your
buddhi that means you’re above your buddhi you have become a master of your intelligence only if you are a master of
your intelligence your intelligence will work for you otherwise it could very
easily work against you when I say it works against you you are you are
experiencing a little bit of stress right Now this means your intelligence is working against you You are
experiencing depression your intelligence is working against you You are experiencing fear your intelligence
is working against you Because all these things it is because of your intelligence you’re creating these
things If I took away half your brain you won’t have stress you won’t have fear you won’t have nothing
So the problem is your brain If we take away your brain you will be fine
absolutely peaceful isn’t it So but that’s not a solution
That is not a solution So you have already evolved into a certain level of
intellect The only way this intellect will function for your wellbeing and everybody’s well-being is you must be
above that If you really become above that we say you are a Buddha
If you are in it you are a non-stop suffering human being Whatever happens you will suffer suffer Whatever does not
happen you will suffer If you are below that not too many problems But then we call you buddhoo
Thank you very much [Applause]
We thank Sguru for this enlightening insight into our lives and well-being We hope this session was a great insight
and would help us in a holistic development Thank you Sadguru I would now request director Professor Dr
Bhaskar Raam Morti to felicitate our chief guest for the evening
I hope I’m not too I’m not too aggressive for the institution
[Applause] Thank you sir I would also request
professor Dr Alay Rajan Professor Dr Jishwinasan and the MILS committee members to please come up on the stage
Hello Can I take just a minute to tell them about the rally The rally for
rivers as you know already it’s been happening and uh tomorrow morning we
will be driving out of Tamil Nadu Why this rally is we must understand this
that river is a concurrent subject in this country That means the center and the state have to work together
When I was in Puducheri the chief minister who was with us said Sajguru almost exactly the same plan we had 25
years ago when I was in the Rajiv Gandhi government But we could never get the concurrence of the remaining states So
it did not happen So I told him see 25 years ago if you had done this we
wouldn’t be where we are today and we could have done it with 10% of the effort that we are putting in right now
to make this happen But now fortunately it is so that all
the 16 states different political spectrum people from different political
parties all of them are participating in the rally which is a a tremendous thing
for the country for the first time there is concurrence
The next the next challenge is even if we aggressively implement this policy it
will take 10 to 15 years of implementation and it needs enormous financial outlays
and there are many complexities in execution
and if we implement this in 15 years time it will take another 5 to 10 years before we can see at least 15 to 20%
rise in the river flow post So this is a policy which is definitely not an
election winning policy That is no political party is too eager to make
this because it’s not something that will produce results immediately 25 years means four to five governments
have come and gone Many of the leaders who are today may not exist in 25 years
time But to make a policy like that it’s important the people of this nation have
to express that we have matured We are not looking for freebies If you do a
policy which is for the long-term well-being of this nation and future generations even if we have to go
through a little bit of pain ourselves we are willing to stand with you If we
do not make this statement in a big way no democratically elected government will go for a policy which has so many
complexities in implementation and a huge financial outlay and the results will come after 25 years These things
have not been done before It is the responsibility of this generation that we make this happen I want 30 cr people
to give this missed call because 30 cr is 40% of the electorate If 40% of the
electorate gives a clear yes that this what we want no government can refuse
please all young people use your phones use your social media to make this happen because if we don’t do this one
thing believe me I don’t know how much you know about it you can easily go on the net and read these things the water
situation in India is very dire in Tamil Nadu when we say river
generally people think only cavaryi even that cavy out of 800 and odd kilometers that it
actually runs from Karnataka only 430 kilometers is in Tamil Nadu This summer
for three and a half months for three and a half months the cowiri dried up
170 kilometers in land Okay out of 430 kilometers 170 kilometers it was bone
dry I want you to just make your own calculations How long does it take before it doesn’t enter Tamil Nadu This
is happening not just to one river My engagement with mountains forests and rivers is right from my childhood Last
25 years I’ve been watching with concern the way the water levels are depleting
We have only 20% of the per capita water we had in 1947 and by 2025 they say we’ll have only 7%
Particularly Tamil particularly Chennai you must see this really we have to watch out You are living in a beautiful
campus The rest of the city is not like this So when you live in a beautiful
place and the rest of the people live in a horrendous place you are at danger It is it is not long before villages which
lose complete water There are many villages which have been vacated When they vacate the next thing is they may
come and sit in IIT campus Don’t think police will be able to handle it If they come in thousands you cannot do anything
And I am just talking about the civil strife that may happen in the country due to water shortage Particularly in
the last seven eight years I’m noticing the the drop is so steep It is super
alarming The way the water levels are dropping and there are many many facts that you can your young people you can
find out for yourself But this is the time for us that we must stand up and make a clear statement as citizenry of
this nation We have matured We are ready for long-term policies is we are not waiting for freebies Thank you very much
I’m delighted uh to be in conversation with Sguru What we’ll do today is uh
explore over the next uh hour or so u what I’d call moral dilemmas moral
dilemmas various sorts particularly with reference to uh the corporate world and
uh maybe uh give a different uh look to it a different uh look to this whole uh
context from uh the point of view what what I’d call a mystic’s uh eyes thank
you uh Sguru Um before I uh venture there I want to
just share with you uh you know my first experience of uh seeing Sguru was on a a
flight to uh Davos and uh he was sitting a few seats ahead of me and uh I was
struck came to my mind was who is this mystic because uh I could not place him as an
Indian because uh the way he has turban well you know it is each one’s eyes and
how you behold somebody and it’s only later that I got to know that uh this
was Sguru Jagias Sometime I take off the brown coat Yeah maybe you know uh he has
that uh he has that ability I would say In any case that was that year 2006 if I
remember Um he spoke of something very interesting Uh he spoke of something
which he called inclusive economics Inclusive economics wasn’t a phrase
anybody used six years back inclusive development inclusiveness we’re talking
of in the last three years or so But six years back when uh this was uh
postulated by uh su he also went on to explain that uh this is uh what holistic
development is all about and that all the tools required for that are in place
but I want you to uh start with this uh because it’s a positive note Sguru Okay
See the because we’re talking about business The purpose of business or the purpose or
the goals of big business is to expand
You can expand in two different ways One is by conquest
Another is by embrace I can conquer you or I can embrace you Both ways you will
become mine If I embrace you you will become mine willingly and I will have
better use of you in every possible way I’m talking business not it’s not my personal thing
But if I conquer you I will still have you but I have to sit on top of your head and make you do things and you will
do everything possible to make my life miserable Yes or no True Absolutely So people are
trying to conquer and their businesses and their activity is doing everything
possible to make them miserable and you can see it on their faces Successful people are showing miserable faces
which is a wrong message to send to the world particularly to the youth If you send a message that success is misery
you’re destroying humanity Success is the sweetest thing that can happen to human being But now you take
the most successful 10,000 people on the planet you will see they are an epidome
of tension and anxiety and misery You are sending a completely wrong
message This you can see took such a bad turn in United States of America in the
60s The so-called corporates brutally wanting to grow conquer the world set
such an image of themselves The youth thought it’s better to sit in the street corner and smoke pot and it’s a better
way to live At least you’re happy You’re not causing any damage to anybody This is a horrible way to exist So it’s
extremely important that successful people send a clear message Success is a
beautiful thing It is not a suffering It is not a miserable thing to do in your life If this has to happen your
expansion has to happen by embrace not by conquest So inclusion
is the is what you’re trying to do but you’re trying to include by conquest because every business wants to expand I
think somewhere because of the way today the financial markets and whatever is happening lot of businesses have lost
this sense that what they want is expansion They’re only looking at their quarterly balance sheets which is not
allowing them to expand It’s too short-term for expansion very big visionary businesses I’m sure
ICIC bank has looked at it this way Otherwise it wouldn’t be what it is today People are looking at expansion
Those who are really looking for expansion they’re not looking at what is somebody’s opinion every quarter You
don’t care what somebody thinks about you People think all kinds of things about me in the last 30 years But in the
last four years just to take last four years as a segment in last four years we have expanded over 20 times over We
multiply not expand This is because of a huge embrace not because of conquest
When you have expanded by embrace you don’t become miserable with expansion You become joyful and
wonderful with expansion Thank you Um I want to maybe stay on
Davos for one more uh maybe round before we move on uh you have seen Davos from
2006 till after uh the crash of 2008 and
uh just before we came here we were having a short chat and you said uh you addressed depression in the postth 2008
uh period and of course you have seen the euphoria of the preceding years
euphoria to depression um how do how do how do these mood swings happen and uh
you know how does one balance out uh your one’s views as it were I think one
reason is uh a lot of people have not strived for their success they are successful by
chance that’s why they’re euphoric and depressed if they had crafted their success
you would know the mechanics of success it doesn’t matter what’s happening today you know where you’re going anyway
Nobody can take that away from you So people who do not know the mechanics of what they’re doing the fundamentals of
what they’re doing by chance because of situational help somebody becomes
successful He is euphoric He thinks he’s they’re hitting a lottery They’re not successful
Hitting a lottery is not success It’s just chance So because of that you see too much of
this swings And anyway as I was telling you they asked me to handle this session
called uh recession and depression
It was 2008 Just then uh recession had moved into the European and American
market All these billionaires were carrying long faces So I’m supposed to spread it a little bit
Spread a smile So I said recession is bad enough Do you
need depression on top of it You always dreamed you want to walk the
beach you want to swim you want to go play golf Okay this is the time less work This is not the end of the world
And above all the way we have structured our economic process in the planet is
such that if we fail we will be depressed If we succeed we will be
damned I said I prefer that you’re depressed
We because our economy is all about more not about all I think the business leaders people who
have reached a certain level of success should shift their attention from more to all All would naturally be inclus
inclusiveness More is taking All is an embrace
Indeed Um moving on to u something that we see across India today Um the mood of
negativity in a way it is a continuum of this depression that we are looking at
But this collective mood of negativity um how do you uh look at it and uh how
do you actually I think you meet only the people in the boardrooms
right now a lot of people too many people including the business leaders and the media everybody is constantly
talking about India will become a superpower which makes me very apprehensive
you don’t have legs and you want to climb Mount Everest It sounds really apprehensive to me
because we going to flounder with this kind of attitude Everybody is talking about India becoming superpower You need
to understand this In this country right now for 1.2 billion people you neither
have the roads nor the airports nor the infrastructure nor the homes nor even enough trees or not enough rivers not
even even a piece of sky for 1.2 billion people The only thing that we have is we
have a population We done well on that
We have a huge population If you transform this population into a very
competent focused inspired population yes we could be a superpower in a different way Then you understand
superpower in normal sense Superpower means people have always thought military might and something else But we
will be a superpower because just about anywhere you go already we see that But in a much bigger way Every company on
the planet could be led by an Indian That is superpower We’re all over the place Somebody was
telling see this is Barat Mahabharat is elsewhere else
It’s in a different place So I know there’s one segment of people who are
constantly marose about markets going down markets going up and stuff There’s another level of people who are too too
loose in their thought that they think we’re going to become a super power We don’t have the fundamentals I don’t have
to tell this to you You know better Uh we don’t have the fundamentals to become any kind of superpower It’s just too
much of nonsense Our problem is we’re too dramatic in our minds We exaggerate
our success We exaggerate our failures It doesn’t matter The crowd sees it that
way It’s all right But people in positions of responsibility and leadership have should be able to see
what is the reality Not imagining things about being superpower Not imagining
things about going into dumps Both are not true We are at a threshold
We are sitting with a possibility a huge possibility in front of us But between
possibility and reality there is a distance Do we have the necessary commitment strength and focus to walk
the distance That’s a big question Is every one of us working towards
creating an India which will have the necessary focus and commitment to walk the distance from possibility to reality
This is still a question mark Which way we will go we don’t know Yeah What I
hear you saying very rightly so is we have this ability to exaggerate our
success exaggerate our failures and maybe miss that big step that we have to
take We like drama which yes we need to do that Um moving on to something else
which in the corporate world I find uh people hesitate to say and particularly
in today’s fastchanging world where things are changing at dramatic pace Uh
three simple words I don’t know to be honest and admit it I have seen you uh
talk at talk on this and I’ve been fascinated by what you have said but in the corporate context I think it is very
much uh um something that we are yet to embrace the ability to say I don’t know
your thoughts see the reason the only reason a human being will seek to know
something is because he realizes that he does not know if he does not realize that he does not
know there will be no longing to know there will be no seeking to know and
definitely there will be no knowing It’s not possible Whether it is spiritual seeking or any other kind of knowledge
you will seek only because you realize you do not know If you think you know everything or you believe you know
everything you will be just too full of yourself That’s all And uh that is a huge problem That’s a
very big problem uh though we have a culturally cultivated humility that you
see all over the place Everybody’s like this only but still too full of yourself When you bend nothing goes out of your
head doesn’t make any space I’m saying
because my head is open that’s why I’m bandaged Can you see
No I I I think that um this is something that we have to understand and acknowledge if we are to grow as a
nation in the in a business context Uh one is the ability to say I don’t know maybe in today’s context um you know
recharge yourself every year in uh those areas which you don’t know and then proceed Uh this brings me to uh another
uh corporate uh question or problem Inability to have a clear mind you know
perception clarity as uh you know you have put it in your words as applied to uh what we do How exactly do we look at
it and what is it that uh you think will stand uh business in goodstead
See when you say you’re a leader why would thousand or 10,000 or a
million people think you’re a leader Because you are able to see something that others are not able to see You have
a little higher perch for some reason for whatever reason or you have a third eye or whatever
You have some for some reason you are able to see something that everybody
else is not able to see That’s the only reason why you will naturally become a leader Unless you are a Maharaja son and
we have to bear with you You know if you have grown up to be a leader
that’s the only reason because you’re able to see something If you are able to do something that others cannot do you
would be probably an engineer You would be something else and something else but you’re able to see something that others
are not able to see That’s why you become a leader a certain vision a certain insight into the nature of
things What people will see tomorrow you are able to see it today
not as a prediction but you are able to see it and you are able to plan to get there before others get there That is
that’s what makes you a leader And now if they don’t have clarity of mind today I see that wherever I go particularly in
the corporate uh areas I wouldn’t like to call it a corporate world uh because
it’s my endeavor to see that there’s only one world that people don’t go on creating their own worlds but in the
corporate atmosphere one thing that you see is people are tense and anxious because they think
they are goal driven you want mangoes in your If you sit there and do mango meditation
it’s not going to come If you nourish the roots you don’t you
never even looked up never even thought of a mango If you take care of the roots one day mangoes will land on your head
Whether you want it or you don’t want it it will just happen anyway But that
whole thing is gone today Everybody has become goal oriented And new age meditation teachers are telling you
don’t bother about doing anything Just imagine and it’ll happen You don’t have to do anything
Yes it’s going on isn’t it Just think about it and it’ll happen Okay Just fanciful things which sometimes work The
problem is by chance many things work All right If you simply throw a stone a
mango will fall That doesn’t mean you can do it once again So if you somehow
get to some place when I say somehow when you are not able to manage your own
mind how are you going to manage 10,000 people’s minds because in some way leadership means you are able to draw
these thousand people and take them in one direction You are able to inspire these people or instigate these people
or like a pi piper if you walk they walk behind you because somehow you captured their minds and they decided that your
way of thought and your way of looking is better than their own It’s not a simple thing for people to think that
your way of thinking is better than theirs You will have to prove it in a thousand different ways Otherwise they’re not going to surrender their own
way of thinking and feeling and whatever So for you to prove that first thing is
you must be in charge of yourself When you do not know how to take charge of
your mind your energies your body and yourself how will you take charge of
them And they are not safe in your hands I would say anybody who is scattered all over the place in his in his hands
nobody is safe Such a person should be one of the departments He should not be
a leader If he has to be a leader in his lap everybody should be safe Then only he
can be a leader That is possible only if you have taken charge of yourself Lot of people have gotten there somehow Can I
tell you a joke Please please On a certain day a bull and a feeasant
were grazing Bull was stomping the grass Feasant was picking off picking ticks off the bull partnership The huge tree
at the edge of the field The pheasant very nostalgically looked at the tree and said “Oh alas there was a time I
could fly to the topmost branch of the tree Now I do not have enough strength in my wing even to get to the first
branch.” The bull very nonchalantly said “That’s no issue Just eat a little bit
of my dung every day Within a fortnight you’ll get there.” Feasant said “Come on
what kind of rubbish is that?” The bull said “Really Try and see the whole humanities on it.”
So very hesitantly the pheasant started pecking at the dung and low on the very
first day it reached the first branch of the tree Within a fortnight it reached the topmost branch of the tree just
beginning to enjoy the scenery An old farmer was rocking on his rocking chair
saw a fat old pheasant sitting on top of the tree Pulled out his shotgun and shot the bird off the tree The moral of the
story is many times even can get you to the top but it never lets you
stay there
you know the phrase uh the phrase was coming at the end you know where the
joke really was cracked I was just trying to sensitize I know I know I know Sguru always says this that drama is
important so uh you know midway I think We all thought the joke was already
cracking but we didn’t hear the crack We We heard it crack at the last uh minute
Um slightly more difficult subject for us I’m sure uh not for you honestly Egos
because this is something that we deal with every day in the corporate world
You have egos uh across colleagues You build you know organization structures I
call them cages because very quickly it is like uh you are in your cage and you’re protecting your cage and you
don’t want anybody to come anywhere near it and so on and so forth How does one deal with the egos or maybe larger
question how does this whole thing arise and how do you uh you know where does this
conclude You want a business answer or a spiritual answer No I want a spiritual answer business answer we try in our own
crude way but I think uh we now have to try uh from your eyes how is this uh how
is this handled see a lot of people have taken on this
mode whenever they do something nasty they
would like to blame it on you but you are not willing to take it so they blame
it on Mr ego Where is this Mr Ego He only comes in
when you’re nasty When you’re beautiful when you’re joyful when you’re loving when you’re wonderful
Mr Ego is absent Only when you’re nasty you want to put it on somebody else
because you haven’t found anybody else You have invented one Mr Ego There’s no
such thing It is just that human beings are right now in a condition where
sometimes they’re pleasant sometimes they’re unpleasant sometimes joyful sometimes miserable sometimes wonderful
sometimes horrific This is what they are Is there anybody here who is 24 hours good
Huh Oscillating This moment you’re wonderful next moment you’re nasty Isn’t it So because of this volatile inner
nature because it’s not established in the yoga we say yoga sahur first
establish your yoga then act that’s not been done first is action when your
first action this is what happens because you’re unsettled you are going
from pleasantness to unpleasantness just about any time with smallest instigation
you have invented Mr ego See if you say me and my ego reside within this body
what it means is there are two of you If there are two of you that means
you’re either schizophrenic or you’re possessed You need either a psychiatrist or an
exorcist You’re not sure what your problem So there are no two people There is only
one person here You are an individual If you are an individual what it means is
the very word individual comes from the word individual That means you cannot be
further divided If you are an individual you understand
that I am sometimes so nice sometimes so horrible If you just realize this would
you want to be horrible You will not want to be horrible But this one thing they’re dodging by
inventing Mr ego when people come and ask me sguru what to do with my ego give him to me I’ll kill him right now where
is he no he comes once in a way whenever you want to pass the buck to
somebody he’s always there ready we instead of that some people don’t go through all that if they become little
religious and if they think they are spiritual what they will do is they will give up their ego and they find God all
the nasty things that they do they say it’s God’s They’re taking instructions from him so
you can’t argue People have waged wars They’ve done horrible things to each other The
nastiest possible things they have done to each other because they were taking instructions from God
Others are taking instructions from a local guy which is Mr Ego Sguru I think uh
in the corporate world we have to do something painful a lot of times build
businesses and then uh destruct businesses and u Jack Welch was probably
one of the masters he said that if you’re not number one or two in any business line that we have we are going
to cut you out I think he was a a brave leader and they built a great company not all leaders find it easy to uh
nurture something and in your phrase you say nurture and butcher We may not use
that phrase but it’s exactly what we have to do but we fail at it I want your
views on this I think in on some of uh my books I think one of the quotes that
I have they have put I think they printed I don’t know if they’re still using it At one time they were using it
I said a guru is a butcher and a very difficult butcher because he
has to lovingly nourish something and then when it’s ripe he has to slaughter it So this is a this is a thankless job
because you nurture something when it’s ripe you have to cut it open So if corporate leaders are doing it
they’re very close to me but I think they’re not doing it They’re getting very attached to what they nourish and
they don’t do it when they have to do it That is because
they have too much of themselves in what they do See the beauty of action Any
action that we perform in the world the beauty the pleasure and the joy of
action a human being will know only when he has no need for activity
If I sit here like this with my eyes closed I can sit here till I fall dead I won’t have any interest It doesn’t
matter what drama is happening I won’t open my eyes if I have to if I don’t have to but at the same time right now
I’m on 20 hours a day you know 365 days I’m on and on because something needs to
be done so are you performing action because it’s needed to the situation in
which you exist because the action is always about the situation but right now that’s not how it is with most people
the action is about them they are trying to make themselves something with action this is a wrong
way to approach you’re putting the cart before the horse See your action is actually an expression of who you are
Instead of that people are trying to perform action and become something You first become something and then you act
in the world These problems will not exist What is needed you will simply do You will neither call it nurturing or
butchering or anything You will simply do what is needed Right now so many
unnecessary things human beings are doing on this planet because it’s about them It’s not about the situation which
in which they exist So very right I think u in the corporate
context is probably the most difficult thing for most people to do Uh they probably develop some attachment which
uh they cannot let go They’re like grandmothers Like grandmothers like
grandmothers So uh they were ready to die but once the grandchild comes they don’t want to die
Wonderful Wonderful Um again in the corporate context you learn you u devote and you
uh work um you know my interpretation of uh you know gan bakti karma uh is that
right or uh we need to sequence it differently in a corporate context or uh uh is there something else that we need
to understand from these three words because they hold a lot of importance uh in a whole lot of things that uh you
have actually talked about and I’m trying to seek uh uh you what this uh
how this could be used in a corporate context So this is relevant for any context
whether you’re a corporate leader or a political leader or a spiritual leader or whatever or you’re just one little
thing you have started you’re not a leader of anything It doesn’t matter who you are for everybody it’s relevant in the sense you can only work with what
you have You cannot work with something that you do not have You can work
towards something that you do not have but you cannot work with what you do not
have Am I clear We can work towards something that we do
not have but we cannot work with what we do not have We can only work with what
we have So right now when I say what we have the only things that you have as a
human being right now is your body your mind your emotion and your energies
These are only four things you have Rest is all imagination
Imagination helps to sleep well tonight You know you’re
you’re tensed up because of whatever is happening in the corporate world or in
the share market or whatever else Then you say this is all God’s will You can sleep well It’s a good tranquilizer You
know when Markx when Mark said it is the opium of the masses
people took it as something negative It is not a negative thing Lot of people are able to sleep only because they
believe in God Otherwise they won’t be able to sleep This is a very inexpensive psychiatry
You understand really if you go to the modern psychiatrist he can take only one client at a time
and he needs furniture [Laughter]
This is an inexpensive psychiatry Wherever you are whichever part of the world who nobody’s around you you say
“God is with me You can sleep well tonight.” So without this most minds would break
It will take an extremely clear mind to exist here without the help of an outer
agency All others need it So I don’t wish to destroy that support for anybody
but you must decide are you looking for soles in your life or are you looking
for a solution in your life if you’re looking at solutions there is another way to approach if
you’re looking for solace just believing something always helps so when you are a
leader I believe I’m it’s eroding these days looking at
many leaders but when Somebody says he’s a leader I believe he’s a solution for
millions of people who are not able to find a solution by themselves for whatever reasons Yes that’s what a
leader is supposed to be But right now in this country you can become a leader
if you create a problem You don’t have to find any solutions
Please don’t take my advice Nobody should take my advice because you’re Mumbai I’m afraid of you
See if you want to become a leader by tomorrow morning you want to be a recognized leader by midday by the time
the midday paper comes by 12:00 tomorrow you want to be a recognized leader in
Mumbai just you know hire one segment you don’t need the whole hall one
segment of these people maybe on 100 people go half of you block one main
artery ceiling why it’s easy to block you block the ceiling and block one
important railroad by midday tomorrow By the time midday comes out you will be a
leader in Mumbai You build 10 ceilings you will not be a
leader in this country You just block one or you break one instant
So this is something that has to change in the nation’s consciousness that
people who create problems we are identifying them as leaders This is a hangover from the satyagraha days of
Mahatma Gandhi But Mahatma Gandhi was putting spanner in the works for an occupation force
Every day he will call for uh non-ooperation satya graha he will fast
and putting spanner in the works essentially their industry their business if it flourishes too much he
will put spanner in the works so that there is an impetence for them to leave so that it’s not too lucrative for them
to stay forever that’s understandable it was fantastic technology without killing people without fighting a war an
effective way of doing it and he did it successfully that’s great but that hangover is not gone in us Today even
today I see chief ministers who are fighting for their right to call for a bunt I
stopping the nation is one kind of technology Making it happen is another kind of technology But there is going to
be respite for us because this whole leadership business if you look at it
say a few hundred years ago the most dominant leadership on the planet was always religious leadership
Then slowly transited into the hands of military leadership From there in the
last 150 years gradually it moved into the hands of democratic leadership and
now in the last two decades and particularly in the coming two decades you will see leadership will largely
move into the hands of economic leaders business leaders They will dominate already It’s beginning to happen So we
have moved from the shackles of religious dogma to the tyranny of
military leadership to the confoundedness of democratic leadership
Now will the business leadership deliver That’s a question
Very very good question and that leads me to the next question Sguru that is
and I know you have very interesting views on it greed greed uh I’m talking of in the corporate
context and we’ll explore many hues as we go along of uh greed but I’m sure uh
uh you know we would all very curious to hear u your views
see once we have chosen there was a time about 20 years ago 25 years ago when
India was vouching that we are a socialist country
socialism is a watered down version of communism
When you don’t have the courage to be a communist you become a socialist
[Applause] which has always been one of the serious
problems with our nation that we don’t have the courage to say who we are what we are what do we intend We’ll always
beat about the bush We always beat about the bush which leaves everybody in confusion you
know because nobody knows where we want to go So communism as an idea is a fantastic
idea Carl Marx might have known lot about economics but
he knows very little about human beings He predicted that the richest nations in
the world will become communist People will share their wealth with each other And how wonderful it’s going to be the
world It’s a fantastic dream It’s a beautiful dream It’s one of the best
dreams the world has dreamed that everybody will be equal Everybody will have everything Nobody has to you know
it’s by our need not by our greed You may produce a billion dollars I may
produce nothing but you are willing to share with me There’s a very beautiful story incident which happened when Mark
Twine visited He was so excited Wow rich are going to share their wealth with the
poor and everybody’s going to be equal Equal opportunity for everyone This is fantastic Everybody wanted with lots of
thinkers and authors from America traveled to Russia because they were so excited This is it The world is going to
change So Mark Twain was walking in a country road A country’s Russian gentleman was
walking in front of him with two hens under his arms
He ran up to him caught up and he said “Comrade
are you really a communist?” He said “Yes I am I’m a party member.”
He said “Is it true that if you have two bungalows you will give away one to your
comrade?” Of course if I have two bungalows I will give away one to my comrade I’m a party member I’m an office
bearer If you have two carriages will you give away one to somebody who needs
it Of course I’m a party member I’m the president in my village I have to and I
will You have two hands Will you give away one of them What the hell That’s all I
have So people wanted to give away what they
don’t have
So when the poor when the poorest of the poor on the planet started talking about communism communism became ugly It’s
such a great idea If the rich and the wealthy and the capable had taken it
world would have become an ashum Yes it would have been a perfect spiritual setting really if the rich had
taken it Now the poor took up the idea What they could not earn they want to
take it by beating Banditry became a philosophy
What should have been a fantastic process of sharing and giving and an
embrace of humanity turned into an ugly idea Most horrific things were done
during Joseph Stalin’s time They say over 27 million Russians died This is
three times the number that died in World War II That many people Russian people died
because the poor are trying to share something that they don’t have
If the rich had shared what a wonderful world it would have been And the poorest
of the poor talking about communism made it ugly If the richest and the most capable on the planet had spoken about
communism it would have been the greatest idea So we gave up that idea and now we chose capitalism Somebody
very prominent in the world declared capitalism is dead you know
So uh I was with him recently and he was talking see they printed like this headlines that I said capitalism is dead
Why it was called capitalism is because capital was only with certain people at
that time Now you have come I see ICICI bank I can also have capital indeed
somebody else can also have capital This was not the reality of the world 100 years ago only a few people on the
planet were capable of capital Nobody else had capital So it became titled as
capitalism Now we are calling it market economy driven by the market Market
means profit No profit you shouldn’t talk about a marketplace And when you
have set up such a system there is no room in your vocabulary There’s no room
for the word greed If you use the word greed what it means
is you’re operating market economy with communism going around in your head
Only if you’re a communist you can talk about greed If you are market economy don’t talk about greed Talk about better
loss If somebody is making a billion dollars per day let’s tax him
900 million you can tax him and that will be distributed anyway But enough to give him incentive to go
on not to take away his spirit So this is how capitalism is managed Here you
don’t talk about this whole corporate social responsibility I think it’s funny It is just an eyewash Instead of that
the government if the administration if it has the necessary sense you can bring the right kind of policies where
businesses can grow unbridled but it will naturally benefit the rest of the society This can be done with simple
laws taxation and other kinds of laws Business laws can do this There’s no
need to talk about service There’s no need to talk about greed Everybody can live with dignity because if you are the
receiving end of the service you lose your dignity If you are at the giving end of the service you go to heaven Both
are wrong What I hear Sguru saying is profit is a
good motive and uh if you call it greed that greed is good And uh greed is good
I think that is something that uh you know profit is something that if you look at the definition of greed what is
greed See for somebody who is walking
to his workplace or his home somebody who rides a bicycle and refuses to take
him on the bicycle is greedy man Somebody who is riding a bicycle sees a
man driving a marauti car and he thinks he’s greedy Just single man ride driving a Marauti car he could take me his
family and my family in the Maruti car because Indians are able to squeeze You know a man who is driving a Maruti car
when a Mercedes or a BMW whizzes past him he
says vulgarity of greed A man who’s driving BMW looks at a man
who is driving a Bugatti and he thinks that is greed So who is to set this definition for what is greed I’m saying
once you have chosen market economy there is no room for that vocabulary in
your life You understand greed is the driving force Now it is for the lost to
manage the greed so that your greed benefits everybody else There is a there’s a in in African lore there is a
saying when the lion feeds everybody else gets fed
So if you are a lion you have a big capability when you feed it is the loss
which should make it in such a way if you make profit everybody should live well instead of talking about greed and
service and corporate social responsibility I don’t know why they’re deviating themselves into all this uh so
stay focused on maximizing profitability yes tax appropriately and uh let
everybody uh grow um for for corporate for the corporate worldlight slightly
more difficult uh question integrity cuz that is something that uh is today
seen as at a premium Um exploring this whole issue of uh
integrity a little more corporate world you come across what term as shades of gray
Are these artificial like the ego or are they real and what uh drives them and
how do you actually put them to rest because this is surfacing more and more and the excuse is well it was gray so I
chose a particular path See in human life whether it’s personal life
or corporate work life or social life you cannot eliminate the gray but the
gray areas become very dominant in a society where the laws are not crystal
clear For the gray areas to be reduced we must simplify the laws We must make
the laws in such a way that everybody can understand the law Only then it can be implemented Do you you are in the
highest level of banking Do you really believe you understand all the laws that are there in banking in India Let me ask
I know you don’t because Yes
Because nobody can understand this It is such a confus confusing nonsense that
you leave so much gray area Now the only thing you can trade is gray When half
the street is gray you will naturally go So basically you’re saying uh yes it is
uh you need to be clear in your mind then take the path No no what I’m saying
is what I’m saying is we are leaving the law making as I said we are in the
transition where economic leadership is going to become more important in the coming years It is time that economic
leaders significant leaders like you take this step that you have a role in the economic the formation of economic
things in the country Right now political leaders who have no clue about what it is are trying to do it You look
at the budget it’s a political statement It has no economic consequence It’s a sad thing A booming economy is being
systematically dismantled That’s how I see it That’s my understanding I don’t know how you see it A very booming
economy is systematically being dismantled not necessarily because they
intend to do it simply because you’re ham-handed You don’t understand what it is about Economic leaders must take part
in making the econom economic laws Now the reason why this is not allowed is
business and corporate leaders are seen as vested interests So one important thing that you mentioned about integrity
is that the business leaders should be able to shed this tag of being a vested interest You must it is this is a high
time as I said earlier will the business leaders deliver Whether they deliver or not simply depends on are they able to
shake off the vested interest tag If you shake off the vested interest tag and
build a trust with the people then you will see economic leaders will participate in making of the economic
laws When that happens we can reduce the gray areas considerably and we can set
up highways to development not obstacle courses a complex problem because uh once you
bring in vested interest uh vested interest it gets even more complex I want to go on to uh something again in
the corporate uh world which we are coming uh which we face and uh you have
used a phrase coming going and staying We are seeing that happen uh in the
corporate world with all the constituents or major constituents or people The approach is you come and you
think of going even before you come and uh you know staying is uh a little
further away from the mind even marriage So uh your perspectives guru this see
because uh as we looked at a corporation as a whole also is thinking in terms of
short-term benefits There is no long-term commitment to what they want to create Individual human beings also
taking the same attitude No human being can create anything truly
wonderful if he’s not absolutely devoted towards what he wants to do Whether it’s
sports or economics business spirituality it doesn’t matter what whatever No human being will raise
beyond mediocrity If he’s not devoted to what he’s doing
that means if you’re devoted to what you’re doing the consequence of your work is not even an issue for you What
you’re doing is the main issue for you Now whether you stay in this company that company is not the problem but you
want to create this is the problem If you have that focus then where you are
doesn’t matter Benefits will happen The chances of you coming and going is very limited because you would like to
because it takes a certain amount of time to build teams It takes a certain amount of time to make you know I mean
evolve into a trustful position in any organization Without people around you trusting you
without people around you looking up to you nobody’s going to achieve anything significant only they may get better
salary If somebody gives them few thousand rupees more somewhere else somewhere else they keep shifting shifting shifting
that is there are commodities in the market you can pick them and drop them as people come and go you also pick and
drop because they don’t show that commitment So for those who are aspiring
to be leaders it’s very important the question is not about what is the consequence of your work The question is
about are you committed to creating whatever is valuable for you Whatever you think is truly valuable in the area
of work that you’re doing Are you committed to this Without this commitment and devotion to what we are
doing humanity will not individual human beings will not raise beyond their
mediocrity It will be only about counting money which will not mean anything beyond a certain point When
you’re earning only 500 rupees a 100 rupee increment will mean a lot to you But after some time it is not something
that even concerns you What you’re creating what you’re doing what the situation allows you to do whether you
can find expression to your talent or not is the important thing Instead of creating that space if every two years
you’re shifting here and there you lose out on that possibility of being a full-fledged human being Instead of that
you will settle for being a community in the market How very true A lot of times
in the the business world as in outside life you try to say I’m doing this for
the greater good Um and people don’t u try probably see
where to draw the line and uh for example uh would you lie
in in the greater good sort of situation I think uh most people already know it I
came on the television somebody asked me sguru would you lie when would you lie or
something like that I said whenever necessary so they went on playing this thing on
the television sguru says he will lie whenever it’s necessary
So obviously one who says he will not lie is lying
because the the definition of what is a liar has to be established within you
Now you are trying to create something for everybody’s well-being The thing is to make it happen You are going by
verbal realities What is true and what is not true verbally is not the thing in
reality So right now let me ask a simple question to all the audience See right now uh there is one new kasab
walking on the street I was there also He asked because he wants to find a
packed house for his work He asked are there people in the hall
Tell me shall I lie or tell the truth You tell me accordingly I’ll do Should I
lie to him or tell him the truth I will lie to him without batting an eyelid
I will If you don’t like it I can’t help it That’s how I am Yeah That’s a very
very very perceptive
because the question is are you ruled by morality or are you ruled by your consciousness of inclusiveness That’s a
big question Are you existing here as a piece of life or are you existing here
as psychological structures of morality I am here as a piece of life My life reverberates with every other life and I
will do whatever I have to do for that whatever
So there is a concept of greater good as long as the good is something that uh
you have you can clearly uh identify evaluate and then uh take a view on I
wouldn’t say greater good or lesser good Is is your action inclusive or exclusive
That’s how the question is Inclusive means you’re take trying to
take everything inward Exclusive means you’re trying to push things out Whenever you do something will this lead
to a larger sense of inclusiveness or will this set up exclusiveness
This is a question This is the only crime on the planet isn’t it See nobody has to tell you nobody has to
teach any human being do not cut up your child do not cut up your own little finger No such thing is needed because
what is a part of you with that you are safe What you think is not yours that is
where the problem is Isn’t it Someone said you know who he said the
other is hell If you think there is something other than you you will start creating hell
anyway If you see everything as a part of yourself then whatever is needed you
do That was very well put In fact uh uh it
drove home the point so well and you used such a an example where nobody felt
guilty in taking a view I’m saying this because uh some time back the same
question was posed by a professor in a different way Same situation He says to find out where
this person is going to next attack and or do something we need to torture him
Will you torture him or not Now I think uh the example that you used brought out
the morality of it very clearly that is it an inclusive act or is it not an
inclusive act and you take a view based on that no we have found better solutions in India because we are a land
of truth we have a truth serum we don’t beat them anymore
um the question I have is still on the in the corporate world one big issue
that is coming up now is work life balance
and the young Indian is today seized of this uh question as indeed young people
everywhere in the world so uh particularly in the American Melu I see
because I mix with this you know people there in India it’s not so tight people
still are little between both in United States it’s so strictly
done Friday morning they’re already in their beach shorts in the office Inside
their trousers they got beach shots When they come out of the parking lot they’re pulling it out
because Friday evening they don’t want to be seen in their pinstripe They want to be seen in the beach shots So this
distinction between work and what is considered fun or pleasure is too stark
That is mainly because you’re suffering your work If you are enjoying your work that
distinction wouldn’t be so stark If you if you went your work like you’re
going there to have a love affair If it was a love affair for me my work
is a love affair If I work 20 22 hours a day I don’t feel that you know something
has been taken away from me because you’re doing what you care to do If
you’re doing what you really care to do in your life if you’re constantly creating what you care to do in your
life everywhere you go no matter whether it’s a work space or on the street wherever you’re constantly striving to
create what you care for then you will see you’re like on a holiday
It’s always pleasure Sometimes you need a break from the this thing for the
physical body If you need a break from work I think you need to look at yourself That means you’re doing
something that you don’t really care for If you’re doing something that you truly care for why would you want a break I
would like to have 48 hours per day if it’s possible But you know even a mystic
is not given extension They’re just strict on the 24-hour schedule I’m willing and I’m energetic
enough to go 40 hours a day but they don’t give extra time You know I asked
this question of Sguru as you are driving here you know how long is your day very definitely and
Sguru said well it’s uh around 18 20 hours and of course if needed it extends
even longer I didn’t know that it extends beyond 24 hours for very well believe that it extends be beyond 24
hours for you No even a mystic and a yogi is not given even a minute extension That’s the problem with the
creation Doesn’t matter who you are you don’t get an extension It gets over It gets over
So now this distinction between work and pleasure being so stark is not a healthy
thing that you enjoy the weekend and you suffer the week
is [Applause] is not a good way to exist
The last question I’ll ask before we open it up is to do with social media
and the rise of social media How do you see that impacting uh our lives And as
uh broadband connectivity grows and it’s growing at a rapid pace in India I think
uh a billion Indians will be connected and could be participants in this big
net as it were I even met the person who started this Facebook thing
and uh you know about uh about 8 months ago I was telling my daughter show me
this what is this Facebook I’ve never seen She said oh this is not for you
I said why is it not for me Am I so ancient that I can’t
book up somebody’s face She said that’s not it
She said “That’s not it You are anyway connecting with millions of people just like that So why do you need Facebook?”
She said I said “But I want to see what it is.” She said “No it’s not for you It’s just
rubbish.” Then I said “It’s rubbish Why do you go on it?” She says “I have no other way to connect
You just connecting with people like this so you don’t have to go on it I have no other way to connect So I go on
it and my time on the Facebook is from I this she was telling me from the age of
16 now she’s 22 she said it is reducing for me because I’m able to connect
better as the day go days go by and when I was 16 I couldn’t connect with anybody
so I was always on the Facebook now I’m able to connect better so I’m going off the Facebook gradually but I’m keeping
it like a little bit so in some way from her her wisdom I’m understanding this
some way If you’re not able to get along with people who are sitting right next to you right now you would like to
connect with somebody far away It’s safe
It it is it is it doesn’t cost anything If you have to fall in love with the
person who is next to you right now it costs life You have to give away a part of your life otherwise it’s not going to work You can love somebody in New
Zealand every day He will write love letters to
you You can write love letters to him You don’t even know whether it’s a man or a woman because
we do not know how many faces he has and it is a kind of an entertainment and
a distraction This is not new I want you to understand people have been doing
this for a long time Now this Facebook or longd distance love affair is not a
new thing People have been doing this in their own way without technology Now they’re using
technology I’m not saying it’s wrong but I’m saying it may make people very remote islands in the world that they
think sitting in the room they’re having a great relationship with the world without ever knowing what human
transaction is Cuz every human being has to learn human transaction Cuz if you do
not learn human track transaction you will not become a human being You will become a psychological being A mass of
nonsense in your head and you think that’s everything Only when you transact with people when there is giving and
taking and the borders are crossed and somebody irritates you somebody steps on your leg and somebody steps on your head
and they do all kinds of things When they do all these kinds of things you understand your limitations your
boundaries your struggles This is very needed for human growth in some way In
one way it is enhancing but in another way it is making lots of people uh a
kind of islands So what I would say is technology has no uh quality of its own
It’s just an enabling how we use it It can be it can make us or it can break us
So it is left to the individual and it is left to the cultures left to the educational institutions and educ people
who are educators who are involved in it to bring this awareness into the child that technology is made for our
well-being not to destroy ourselves If this is taught to every child I think
they will use it in a positive way Thank you We can uh open this uh a few
questions to the audience Guruji you mentioned that uh taxes have to be
rationalized but how does the taxpayer ensure that it is spent properly
I said uh in the making of the laws economic leaders have to be included
especially the economic laws once that happens the next step of how
it is used also will come into their hands I’m saying the law making should not be the
prerogative of people who just from nowhere they pounce and just land in the parliament just like that
I mean the statistics that they’re giving I don’t know if it’s all genuine statistics or you can trump up cases
against people in this country but what they’re saying how many people have I mean yesterday has been going about
giving statistics I don’t know if all this is real I can’t I I would like to believe it’s not real number of people
against whom murder cases are there number of people against whom rape cases
are there number of people who have other kinds of criminal cases against them convictions Convictions must be
true Cases may be trumped out When you look at this if these people are going
to decide how the money is going to be used we very well already know how it’s going to be used
Now the thing is we have come to a place we have come to a place where people
people are not even expecting integrity from the political leadership Even that
expectation is gone Even if there is somebody with some integrity he comes we
already branded him that he’s no good anyway he’s going to be a thief if this has to change one thing is
corporate leader leadership has to show a different dimension of integrity and
they should get a foothold into the law makingaking process particularly concerning the economy because today
almost everything in the country is determined by an economic process the whole world is like this there was a
time when countries were divided in terms of ideologies and stuff There’s
only one ideology Are you successful or not in the economic market So when that is that is the mode we have taken I’m
not saying this is an ideal thing When that’s the mode we have taken we better succeed in that See you you start
playing football and now you want to take the ball in your hand and run away
That is destroying the game You chosen to play football In football you have to
run with the same two feet and also kick the ball which makes it little less efficient If you take it in your hand
and run you could be more efficient but you chosen to play football and that’s the way you play it You can’t change the
game in the middle of the game Suddenly you can’t say I will play some other game Okay Now we have chosen a market
economy Our business is to make it a successful process which will bring well-being to for all the people in the
country and in the world If this has to happen people who are who are the real
participants in the economic process which is the economic leaders and the business leaders they must have a role
in making of the law and to to some extent in the enforcement of the law
otherwise how thank you uh Sguru on that note wealth to well-being and all the
challenges in between and we explored a whole range of issues um most of them
relating to uh the business world the corporate world a few of them uh to the real life beyond the corporate world and
I’m sure we are all the richer for it Thank you very much We must understand
first of all grading everything by economic standards is a serious mistake
If you grade everything by economic standards how much can you earn How much can you provide If this is the only
standard of well-being then believe me you may have women in the world but you
will kill the feminine totally It’s very important
Today today it is becoming like this If you want to be successful in the world a
woman should act like a man This is complete surrender This is slavery of
the worst kind It’s very important we have feminine in equal proportions as
masculinity to make this world beautiful and our lives beautiful If you kill the
feminine in the name of success because our idea of success has become so
rudimentary we think how much money have you got that’s your success If you do this you will kill the feminine totally
because this is a gross world and you will bring marketplace into your mind
and into your home Your home will become a market This is happening in the western societies When they’re getting
married they’re making a contract When we divorce who gets what I’m saying what how much ugliness do you
want in your life How can two people be woven into one If
we are calculating when we’re getting married itself we calculating when we part you will get the car I will get the
house How do you live like this What an ugly life to live So don’t take the
marketplace home This is what will happen if you make your standard of life
purely economic See if you’re postponing something
You’re obviously doing something that you don’t want to do
If there is something that you really want to do will you postpone it or prepone it
Hello Do you see somebody’s waiting for
someone they badly want to see only 10 minutes
in the 10 minutes they will look at the watch 25 times why they want to prepone it
you’re doing something that you don’t want to do so you want to postpone it I’m asking why the hell are you doing
something that you don’t want to do no because if I do this I will get that
I will get that That’s not the point There’s nothing to get in this life
There’s really nothing to get in this life Either you lived this life in a
profound and intense manner or you did not What will you get in the end
Huh If somebody dies in the agricultural
college do they bury them or fire them How is it What’s the tradition
Buring is good for agriculture because human beings make good manure
So in the end what will happen to you and me They will either bury us or burn us That’s all will happen in the end You
think something else they’ll give you a price Nothing will happen in the end Only
thing is the process of life How wonderfully did you live That’s all there is
So if you are doing something really wonderful do you want to prepone it or postpone it
Huh Prepone only So you must find what is it that you really want to do If you
find that one thing you will always prepone everything not postpone I have a
question regarding decision taking decision of my life that means going for
a new job or like starting a new business or or going for educations what
should I consider and what should I think before that to
think about that decision to take that decision so uh essentially what you’re asking is
what should I invest my life in but the way you’re putting it is what
job should I take what education should I do that’s not the point essentially the important thing is this is a life
for every one of you your life is precious isn’t it hello it’s a precious
life if something is precious where do you want to invest this life into what
do you want to invest this precious life if this is a worthless life throw it somewhere if this is a precious life
what do you want to invest this life into
If you look at it this way you will find something truly worthwhile to do
If you think in terms of how to earn a living how to
get this kind of thing that kind of thing then you will do something silly that you will regret for the rest of
your life Most people are a regret That’s why they’re going around joyously because they’re not doing what they want
to do They are not creating what really matters to them They’re doing something
for a living Earning a living is not a big deal for a
human being Every creature every worm insect bird animal is earning their
living isn’t it So with such a big brain what is a big deal about earning a
living But unfortunately because of 10
to 20 generations of poverty in this country because of external occupations
and invasions and stuff Because of that people have gotten into this mode How to
earn a living How to earn a living Parents are constantly grilling their children How will you earn your living
with such a big brain When an earthworm can earn its living such a big brain is
earning a living issue No What is it that you’re going to create
this precious life Where are you going to invest it Are you going to invest it
in something that’s truly worthwhile or are you going to throw it away as a worthless thing This is the important
thing because what you call as my life is just a certain amount of time and
energy isn’t it Yes
As you sit here your life is ticking away or no You’re young you may not be thinking
like this but actually it’s ticking away What is sticking away is not time What
is ticking away is your life Yes or no So this energy that you call as my life
how are you going to invest it Because it’s going to get if you’re doing something truly worthwhile it gets over
before you know what happened Only if you’re doing something worthless it feels like a long life Have you noticed
this On a particular day when you’re very happy 24 hours poof it went off like that like a moment You’re miserable
24 hours feels feels like 10 years Have you not noticed this So only miserable
people will have a long life Joyful people
life goes away like that as if it’s a couple of days it passes away like that
If you are creating what you really care to create So one thing that every young
person should do is without the influence of the peers of your own age
group without the influence of your professors and your parents without the any kind of influence somewhere you must
stay by yourself at least for 2 three days and look at it What is it that I
want to invest this precious life into What is it that will be worthwhile today
and worthwhile after 50 years for me to invest myself into You invest your life
into that Whatever it is however small big it doesn’t matter If you see that
this is something truly worthwhile and you invest your life in that this will be a life of fulfillment
Hi I’m Ranir Singh and I want to know the truth about ambition
I find myself to be ambitious and sometimes I wonder is it a good thing is
it a bad thing Um how is it affecting me How is it affecting other people Well
Ranir is saying he’s very ambitious
but fortunately he still kept his playfulness in his ambition
because generally ambitious people become Uh in the beginning they carry a
constipated face As life progresses they will become
grave practicing the final pose
all their life because
you make up something in your mind which you call as ambition It’s just a thought
Now you put so much of your life energy into it that your
very life becomes about that one thought that you have Believe me no thought is
worth investing your entire life No thought
Essentially right from kindergarten
teachers and parents are keying PE children up
You must be number one the lowest number in the number system
and this number one slowly translates into ambition It may take on various forms but
essentially number one will remain in the scheme of ambition
But the reason why people take to ambition is they do not know how else to propel
themselves to success How to propel myself to success without
fixing a goal This is the fundamental question Is ambition right or wrong
It’s neither right nor wrong It’s just very limited because what ambition can you have
Whatever you know right now maybe multiplied by 10 is your ambition
If you’re very brave you will multiply by 100 If you’re a little foolhardy you will
multiply it by a million But it is just an expansion of what you
already know You cannot have an ambition about something that you do not know at all
if absolutely new possibilities need to happen in one’s life
Above all if human genius has to unfold it’s very important that we do not
create an ambitious world but we create a a very joyful and
involved world If you are very joyful and absolutely involved in whatever
you’re doing depending upon the capacities that are there within us we will go as far as we
can go Your entire business is to constantly
upgrade this machine so that it’ll be at a higher level of function in every
moment of activity whatever you’re doing So
for Ranir and everybody for me you are not ambitious enough
if you don’t fix anything but keep this on full speed all the time Let’s see
where it goes Who knows where it’ll go Maybe it’ll go in places that you’ve
never imagined possible If only what you imagined happened What a poor life it
would be So
do not limit yourself with ambition because a human being is a limitless
possibility Life is about exploring that possibility
[Music]
your dreams goals and desire aspirations
It’s it’s good that you spend a little more time on it and see will this really
mean something to you Even after 25 years 50 years if you are in your deathbed will it still mean something to
you You must look at it Whatever you’re aspiring for whatever you’re dreaming of
whatever goals you have set will it really mean something Because most of these goals are traps
They’re just traps You get in it’s only one way street You can’t turn back I
want you to look at this because
many of them are older than you You ask them what they dreamed of at 18
They are fortunate it didn’t come true
Yes or no If everything that you desired and dreamed came true in your life could you
live with it Fortunately many of those things got filtered and never came true
Isn’t it So it will be very good if anybody of
your age if they want to decide and fix the goals of their life
it’ll be very good if they take a break from all influence that’s around them social influences family influences
other influences withdraw somewhere that’s why in asham withdraw somewhere
sit down meditate bring yourself to a certain level of clarity and joy when
you’re very happy and clear You must decide not in desperation You set goals
Desperate goals that you set will mean a lot to you at that moment Tomorrow morning you look you don’t know why
you’re tangled up with it So uh it’ll be good If you if you’re fixing your life
it’s best that you do it when you’re very very peaceful happy and clearheaded
isn’t it not influenced by anything around you simply by yourself Sit and
decide what is it that you really want to become in your life What is it that will be of enduring value for you Not
for somebody else for you And you don’t have to build a personality
for that You strive for that The necessary persona will come You must
understand what a personality is The word personality comes from the word
persona Persona means in Greek
or in Latin I’m sorry is a mask This is a mask that they used to use in old
theaters Now the same people will be playing many roles Let’s say Ramayan is
happening You have to play Rama’s role also and Sitha’s role also and Laxman’s role also
For everything there’s one one mask You hold this mask and speak like Rama keep it down Hold this mask and speak like
Sitha keep it down Hold this and speak like Hanuman and keep it down This is how the plays were done So it is those
masks which were referred to as persona
So personality means you held a mask and mask got stuck to
your face You couldn’t pull it out That means you have a personality
Personality is something that people are trying to develop because they have no
sense of being Instead of the real thing you’re trying
to concretize the fake thing If you are in touch with your being why
do you want a personality It’s not necessary You can be a different kind of personality in different places You are
actually already Or are you stuck with one personality Some people are People
who are simplistic in their head have only one personality Others have different personalities in different
areas of life Isn’t it If you had seen me before
like 1999 that is before the consecration of Dana
I was a completely different kind of person Okay
To such an extent everything about me was so different
Well before that things happened that was beyond me But this was conscious
At that time I was single-minded towards a certain purpose I was in a certain way
So after I never thought I will live beyond that but somehow things happened
Then I thought okay now that the work is over let me change my personality completely to fulfill that I had
acquired a certain kind of personality and now that it’s over I thought let me
change it and I told people around me see I’m going to change my personality don’t be
shocked I’m still the same guy
I said no problem this this this I said just hang on because things will change
everything about age will change the way I operate will change the way I speak will change the way I dress will change
the way I do everything will change they said no problem we know you we love you with this this I said that’s okay hang
on tight because when things change people fall off lot of people fell off
because they couldn’t believe where is that person that they knew that
person just evaporated you know this is a new person they can’t identify
with this new person I told them and changed in spite of that they fell off
So many of them so many of them who were very dear to me and very close to me they fell away because I changed so
dramatically and I told them I’m going to change because one face of work is over Now it’s time to change my
personality The way I look the way I dress the way I speak the very way I am everything about
me I even change what food I like I changed my personality So I thought
I’ll change my food also
So personality is something that you have taken on but you have become so
unconscious about it that you think it’s for real is you’re you’re asking how to
develop That means you’re making it up right Another word for developing is making up isn’t it You’re making it up
Make it up whichever way is suitable for your kind of activity But you must be able to keep it down If it gets stuck to
your face then it becomes misery Then all suffering will come to you You
can take on any kind of personality But when you want to keep it down you must
be able to keep it down There was a sage
He was so wise People went to him and crowds gathered
Then the king went to him and the king saw such a wise man should be in his
court So he told the sage “You must come and become my chief
minister.” Because a wise man like you shouldn’t go away sitting under a tree
You must be useful for the people The sage said that’s fine but I have a
condition You must give me a room
in your palace where I will spend every day one hour
You should never peep into that room You should never ask me what it’s about You should never break into it Nothing This
room should be left unexplored by yourself your servants your secret agents and everybody
King that’s not a problem What’s the problem with me You want your room Why do I want to look into your room Take it
Then whenever any important meeting is to come
this man who sage now who’s become a minister so he’s wearing appropriate clothes for the palace
but he goes in to this room and locks himself for 1
hour and comes out a few months and years passed
but then after that king’s curiosity you know you know even got us to Mars
He wants to know what the hell is he doing inside
So p rumor started all around Oh he’s doing something He’s got somebody inside
Maybe he’s an enemy agent He suddenly landed here What is he doing there What
is he doing there Everybody the whole palace started buzzing around with what is he doing in this room Everybody wants
to see what’s in the room But it’s always locked He goes in spends time there and comes out Especially when
something important is to be done he goes in
All kinds of rumors happened
So one day king couldn’t hold it
King asked this this man I want to see what’s in that room
He said “Well there’s a promise you’ve given me If you break the promise I will leave.”
So he contained it He doesn’t want to lose the man He’s too wise
And then his other courtier started talking “How can you allow this We don’t know what’s
happening inside It could be dangerous Could be this It could be that.” One day when he was not there they broke
open the door and went inside They looked around The room is empty No
furniture no nothing Just empty room
They looked nothing Then what does he do here
Then in one corner they saw very you know worn out clothing
hanging there and a begging bowl They went
They couldn’t make out what this is Then he came in He said well you wanted to
see you have seen The king asked what do you do here
He said whenever I want to make any important decision I come here wear my
worn out clothes and sit with a begging ball bowl clearly
you know that I don’t want to be caught up with the with all the things of the palace I want
my wisdom not to be lost in these clothes and in this uh jewelry and in this stuff So I come here wear those
clothes sit with my begging bowl make the decisions and then come out Now you’ve broken the promise and he left
So this is what meditation is for you Every day when you sit you strip
yourself down You don’t have to do anything about it If you sit there simply
see anything that’s made up needs constant support from you isn’t it
See suppose you tell a lie it needs constant support to keep it up isn’t it
But if something is true you can even forget it But it’s still there isn’t it You understand what I’m
saying If something is true even if you forget it it’s still there No problem
But if it’s a lie you have to keep it up Your personality is a lie Your being
your existence is the is the truth You don’t have to keep this up This will be anywhere there What you make up for the
sake of the society to function in the society you need a certain kind of makeup You must be able to keep it down
If you’re going to bed fully made up then something wrong with you
[Music]
I see this happening every day Well in the world in a big way but even among
our own people a whole lot of people not a small
percentage a large percentage of people they will do something Something has to
be done Let’s say some task it doesn’t happen
When it doesn’t happen the initial instinct is it’s because of
her It didn’t happen It’s because of him It didn’t happen But we have largely
cured that for our people that they can’t point fingers at anybody
You will see a whole lot of people will look for some metaphysical reason as to
why it did not happen
Essentially they’re blaming me Sudguru your grace is not working
[Applause]
From day one from day one of engineering even from the free introductory only one
thing that we’ve been trying to nail into your head is if something is not working obviously
it’s not done well Hello something is not done well Maybe you’re
not able to figure it right now That’s not the point But something is not working Something did not work the way
it should We obviously did not do something right
But people look for metaphysical solutions
For a whole lot of people this is what mysticism means Simple things in their lives they
complicate And that’s mystical
No no Mysticism means the most mystical things that you cannot perceive through
your five senses or your fundamental logic that you have to make that
available in a reasonably logical way This is mysticism
But to make simple things unavailable and metaphysical is not
mysticism of any kind So you must understand this If
everything that you try to do is becoming frictious friction is happening Obviously you are
the sandpaper You know what’s a sandpaper
I’ll ask them to provide you a sandpaper a small piece Every day whenever you
have a friction with somebody just scrape your skin somewhere
So if you don’t cure yourself quickly you won’t have any skin left
When you don’t have any skin left then you will not touch anything
You will not create you will not look for any friction You will walk in Suppose you had no skin How would you
walk Even a little feather won’t touch you like that You will walk isn’t it
Because everything hurts now So if you want that kind of treatment we can do
otherwise first come to your senses Friction is happening means wherever you go friction is happening Obviously chew
One simple thing you can do to reduce friction is I’ve told you many times but you’ve not done this is whatever you’re
saying in a day or in an hour or in a minute How many
words per minute are you uttering Bring it down to 50% Still do the same work
You will see a whole lot of friction will go down simply because you’re not blabbering
Yes And we’ve been trying to train you
Whatever you see whether you see a man woman child cow donkey
donkey also
No How will friction not happen It will happen
So only when sguru is here like this rest of the time like this it won’t work
uh bring this into you not just as a symbolism genuinely
So friction
of two kinds One within ourselves outside is just an expression and a
consequence So this whole thing about inner
engineering means just this that when you sit here you can sit here without any friction
If you can sit here without any friction outside friction also will go down
But when you meet a sandpaper there must be some friction
There are sandpapers Hello So when you meet a sandpaper there must
be friction otherwise how there will be So generally we avoid sandpaper if we
can But sometimes we have to work with them When we have to work with the sandpaper
you need tact This is something you have to learn This will not come This is not nothing
spiritual about it This is tacked in the society
Sometimes it doesn’t work But it’s a question of skill
Some people who are not spiritual in any way they are very tactful when they meet sandpapers
You will see these kind of agents and others who are working in government offices and in political atmospheres
They are so smooth It doesn’t matter how rough the other person is These people just
they’ll just get their job done and leave So working with sandpaper
takes a little bit of skill and experience Nothing spiritual about it It’s a social
skill But uh generally
in the asham there are very few sandpapers Once in a way people pop up sand on them but they
drop it You know they don’t keep it all the time Sometimes sometimes they are like that They’re not
like that all the time So when they are like that when the porcupine has its
thing up you must just keep away a bit When it’s down you can talk to it
It doesn’t keep it up all the time It doesn’t have the strength to do that
So your friction you must understand it’s just you What
should I do What should I do I won’t tell you I will not tell you This is all you have
to do We will get a special donkey for you You must bow down from the rear
[Music] Not from the front Sguru I went and touched donkey’s hoops
No no From the front it doesn’t work From the rear it works
[Music]
See when somebody else calls you a fool it’s an insult When you realize you’re a
fool that means you become smart enough to know that [Applause]
So I did not call you a fool I only agreed with you
This happened to me also before all this happened I was very
smart Very very smart
So I thought and so everybody around me also supported it
I definitely thought so All others around me also supported this
He’s very smart And uh the activity that I that I was
performing at that time and the results that it produced also proved that I was very smart
But one day I went up a small hill
and I realized I was not a fool Since then everything has been fantastic
Yes So be a fool It’s a damn good thing
If you’re a damn fool it’s a damn damn good thing
But don’t tell anybody like this [Music]
Because socially you still have to live You don’t go about telling everybody I’m a fool It’s all right You know you’re a
fool Everybody thinks you’re smart That’s a good thing But you tell everybody you’re a fool
That’s not a good thing
So uh
there are different ways to look at this
If something bigger than yourself happens to you something way bigger than
yourself happens to you then naturally you feel like a damn fool
Nothing happened to you You are the biggest thing in the universe You think you’re smart but you are a bloody fool
That’s a big difference
We can even say this with in other terms but let me not go there
I want you to understand that there are no too many problems with
you Hello
You think you are complicated because you like to be complicated
because if you’re simple you feel like a fool Yes
So you are complicating yourself just to avoid seeing that you’re a
bloody fool Your problem is not very existential
It’s more maintenance Certain things are not opening up
This happened Shankar and Pil checked into a hotel
along with his wife at 11:30 in the night He called the
reception and he said “My wife is threatening to jump out of the window
from the fifth floor.” The reception said “Sir
this is a personal matter I cannot intervene in this And above all
I’m the only night staff who is here So you need to deal with it yourself This
is a personal matter except for me and one maintenance staff There is nobody in
the hotel We cannot assist you in any way You need to deal with it yourself It is your personal stuff
Sharper road You idiot You think I will ask you to come and handle my personal
matters I’m talking about a maintenance issue only The damn window is not opening
[Applause]
So your problem is just that the window is not opening
There’s no other problem Just maintenance issues because you think you’re too smart It’s
too stuffed up If you feel like an empty fool it’ll open up
